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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| Subject | Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts |
| References | (7 earlier) <lkvae4$op6$1@dont-email.me> <lkvcbl$htp$1@news.albasani.net> <slrnln7ift.40d.jedi@nomad.mishnet> <ll0kua$6rr$2@news.albasani.net> <ll19vq$8tm$1@dont-email.me> |
| Message-ID | <slrnln9kok.mbc.jedi@nomad.mishnet> (permalink) |
| Date | 2014-05-15 09:45 -0500 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2014-05-15, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 5/14/2014 4:50 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 14/05/14 20:54, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-14, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 14/05/14 09:44, crankypuss wrote:
>>>>> On 05/13/2014 03:10 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>> PHP is fine if you're working with the web, kind of pointless
>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find that to be absolutely not the case.
>>>>
>>>> but others don't. They take a personal and opposite view.
>>>>
>>>> PHP CAN be used for other things. But most of us were dong other things
>>>> perfectly well before we discovered PHP and for us PHP only has one
>>>> advantage: its widely supported as a web scripting language.
>>>
>>> As a tool for C avoidance, PHP is a bit of a johnny-come-lately.
>>> If that's all you're really interested in, then there are plenty of
>>> more well established options with whatever bells and whistles you're
[deletia]
>>> On the other hand, PHP has gained itself a reputation for being
>>> the modern day equivalent of Sendmail or BIND in terms of being a
>>> security disaster.
>>>
>>
>> sendmail wasn't a security disaster if you set it up OK and bind - well
>> I've never had a problem
"if you set it up OK"
Well that's the problem right there. Sendmail was/is a complex and powerful
beast with a large number of features that were irrelevant to people 10 or 15
years ago. Nevermind now. It was overkill in most use cases and it's flexibility
a source of problems.
Something simpler and better tailored is less likely to be set up wrong.
>>
>
> Nope, it isn't a security disaster if you don't use it.
>
>> Nor with PHP either
>>
>> Juts be carefiul how you use it.
The problem is that lots of people aren't. Then they distribute
their work widely to people in no position to clean up after them.
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vi isn't easy to use. |||
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vi is easy to REPLACE.
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query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-13 02:17 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2014-05-13 10:37 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-13 11:52 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2014-05-13 13:28 +0000
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 10:29 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Collin Pruitt <hellow+newsgroup@binenv.com> - 2014-05-13 11:00 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-13 10:05 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2014-05-13 11:32 -0500
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-13 19:09 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-13 21:35 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 16:10 -0500
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-13 23:03 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-13 19:55 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-13 20:26 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-13 20:37 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:18 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-14 08:20 -0400
PHP Gui Toolkits (was: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-05-14 14:58 +0200
Re: PHP Gui Toolkits crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 02:04 -0600
Re: PHP Gui Toolkits Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-05-15 14:38 +0200
Re: PHP Gui Toolkits The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-15 13:59 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 02:01 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-14 06:40 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-14 08:23 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:00 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 14:49 -0500
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 02:44 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 10:17 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:39 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-14 12:29 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 14:54 -0500
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 21:50 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-14 22:49 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-15 09:45 -0500
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-15 17:35 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 02:07 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 07:58 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 09:55 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-15 08:08 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 10:04 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 04:42 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:21 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 12:32 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-14 13:39 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 15:23 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-05-14 20:00 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 21:48 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-14 22:18 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 23:10 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-14 22:05 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 23:07 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-14 22:51 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-15 12:34 +0000
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-15 14:52 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 10:13 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-15 17:48 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-16 01:12 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-16 11:29 +0000
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-16 13:03 +0100
PHP integers (was: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-05-16 14:16 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-15 10:03 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-15 16:26 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 10:07 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-15 17:37 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-05-15 19:14 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-16 02:45 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-16 09:25 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-16 09:14 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-16 01:17 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-05-15 19:33 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 02:36 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-14 10:09 +0100
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:58 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2014-05-13 21:23 +0000
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2014-05-13 19:02 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:24 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2014-05-14 17:23 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-14 22:53 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 02:13 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-15 06:09 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-15 10:16 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-05-15 18:49 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-16 12:02 +0000
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-16 08:17 -0600
init-system, bash, etc. (was: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-05-16 18:48 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2014-05-15 08:02 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:16 +0200
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-13 12:20 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2014-05-13 13:35 -0500
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2014-05-13 19:04 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-14 03:26 -0600
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-05-14 08:28 -0400
Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-13 17:26 +0100
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