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Re: anyone know of RTF translator?

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On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:16:19 -0600, Robert Heller wrote:
> At 20 Dec 2011 21:15:36 GMT Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:05:34 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> 
>> > On 12/19/2011 7:06 PM, Michael Joel wrote:
>> >> I could really use some "add on" app/script that would allow me to
>> >> supply a RTF (rich text format) file and it translate it to HTML. Of
>> >> course free is preferred.
>> 
>> > Open it in MS Word
>> > Save it in HTML
>> 
>> You owe me a keyboard cleaning Jerry. Honestly, have you seen the garbage 
>> that msword outputs when you ask it for html.
>> 
>> Open office might be better, I don't know. It generates this for a 
>> document containing a single word:
>
> Word Processors (*ALL* of them) generate horrible HTML (MS-Word might
> be the worst of the lot).  The problem is the Word Processors are all
> 'WYSIWYG' and HTML *by definition* is *NOT* WYSIWYG: HTML markup allows
> for wide variation in what is displayed -- nothing is set in stone. 
> All of the markup is vague and open-ended and the browser is free to do
> whatever it likes and the enduser is allowed wide latitude in
> configuring almost everything from fonts to screen/window size and
> resolution. In order to preserve the 'intended display, the word
> processor must use lots of 'torturous' HTML to attempt to force the
> proper display.

Isn't that ideal? Funnily enough, that's how most word processors work
these days, at least in the hands of people that actually know how to
use them instead of that merely think they do. The evidence of this
is that every real word processor these days includes the ability to
mark up text exactly like HTML does, and the magic ability to redefine
the styles associated with the classes of text, exactly like cascading
style sheets do. The issue is an astronomical percentage of people
using Word never touch the things and do all that kind of stuff by
hand instead. Which doesn't make the HTML output of Word any better.
When used properly, Word doesn't generate HTML much worse than any
bottom-rack, one-semester-of-experience HTML "designer". When given an
elaborate document created by the average typist-turned-electronic
keyboard jockey, that turns into a complete mess. But that's not (all)
Word's fault. There's just a lot more idiots using Word to create HTML
output that there are using LibreOffice to create HTML.

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anyone know of RTF translator? Michael Joel <no@please.com> - 2011-12-19 19:06 -0500
  Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-12-19 20:05 -0500
    Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> - 2011-12-20 13:07 +0000
      Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-12-20 09:19 -0600
      Re: anyone know of RTF translator? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-12-22 03:16 -0700
    Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-12-20 21:15 +0000
      Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-12-20 17:14 -0500
      Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-12-20 16:16 -0600
        Re: anyone know of RTF translator? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2011-12-21 08:59 -0600
          Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-12-21 10:36 -0600
          Re: anyone know of RTF translator? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-21 17:04 +0000
  Re: anyone know of RTF translator? Michael Joel <no@please.com> - 2011-12-20 12:40 -0500
    Re: anyone know of RTF translator? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-20 17:50 +0000

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