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Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it

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richard the sto0pid wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> richard @shut.the.fuck.up.stupid wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> Twayne wrote:
>>>>> Just an idle comment on those who use invalid.com for e-mail
>>>>> addresses:
>>>>> 
>>>>> invalid.com is a legit e-mail address; try it.
>>>> 
>>>> Better is to use example.com as it is designed for the purpose. Even
>>>> better than that is example.invalid
>>>> 
>>>> Any made-up user name to the left of the @ that uses a valid domain
>>>> name to the right will flood the server of the owner of that valid
>>>> domain, regardless if the user name is legitimate or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for pointing out this problem.
>>> 
>>> Really?
>> 
>> Yes, bullis, really.
>> 
>>> I wasn't aware that simply posting an addy cause email to be sent to
>>> that addy.
>>> Is this some new feature of usenet?
>> 
>> In all your years, I suppose it is possible that you have never heard
>> of email address harvesting on Usenet by spammers. Okay, I get that.
>> You've learned something new tonight.
>> 
>> BTW, bullis@shut.the.fuck.up.stupid will still cause the servers the
>> spammers use to attempt to *send* mail to shut.the.fuck.up.stupid. They
>> will *not* attempt to send to example.com or something.invalid (because
>> they are configured that way).
> 
> Yes you have it wrong.
> Usenet addy's by themselves DO NOT send email.
> They are collected and abused by spammers.

Well, duh!  Is that some sort of backpedalling statement? What part of 
"harvesting" was too far over your brow?

> Which is why I have NEVER used my real addy.
> mail@newsguy.com Is a valid addy.
> Which I did use, with permission.
> I was told that since it is not active, any mail sent to it is
> automagically trashed.

Sure, the mail can be trashed. The idea with using an .invalid TLD is to 
prevent the *sending* of any mail *in the first place.* Why clog the pipe 
if you don't have to?

> And then there are the more sophisticated spammers who will use programs
> to crack your login password so they can send mail as if it came from
> you.
> I know. I've been hit twice that way.

..none of which has anything to do with the topic being discussed.

-- 
   -bts
   -This space for rent, but the price is high

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A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-02 15:07 -0400
  Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 21:46 +0200
    Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-10-02 17:07 -0500
      Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-10-03 00:31 +0200
        Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-02 20:03 -0400
          Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-10-03 02:23 +0200
            Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 22:49 -0400
            Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-03 14:06 -0400
      Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-02 20:02 -0400
    Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-03 19:36 +0200
  Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-02 19:49 +0000
    Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-10-03 22:40 -0400
      Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-04 03:50 +0000
        Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-10-04 04:08 -0400
          Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-04 12:55 +0000
        Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 13:42 +0000
          Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-04 14:04 +0000
        Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-04 19:33 -0400
          Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-10-05 13:54 -0500
            Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-05 18:13 -0400
          Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-05 19:01 +0000
            Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-05 18:16 -0400
              Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-06 01:47 +0000
                Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-10-05 22:45 -0400
                Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-10-06 02:54 +0000
      Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-10-04 19:30 -0400
  Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-10-03 22:44 -0400
    Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-04 08:32 +0100

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