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Re: the changeover to mysqli

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On 9/26/2013 2:59 PM, Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> On 9/25/2013 5:58 PM, Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <1cun3xxz7nbpj.zop5ye5ou0f7$.dlg@40tude.net>,
>>>> richard <noreply@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let's face it, html has deprecated a ton of things which are still in
>>>>> use.
>>>>> Why? because a hoard of people refuse to upgrade their systems.
>>>>
>>>> You mean, update their web pages. Fat chance of that happening. And
>>>> because browsers still support almost everything that was ever
>>>> introduced, bar a couple of minor things, I see no reason, by and large,
>>>> to do so either. I just use the HTML5 doctype to ensure standards mode.
>>>
>>> And that is exactly the reason, why those deprecated features won't be
>>> removed--because it would break too many existing sites.  If there were
>>> less websites relying on obsolete features, the browser's could be
>>> purged, which would be beneficial to ease further development.
>>>
>>> The situation is similar with regard to the original MySQL extension.
>>> Cf. <https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mysql_deprecation>.
>>>
>>
>> No, they WILL BE removed.
>
> I didn't want to say that the mysql extension will not be removed, but
> rather that the process of deprecating it apparently was not so easy,
> just because many websites/programs are still using the extension, even
> if its use has been discouraged (long?) before PHP 5.5.
>
>>                             There has been plenty of time for people to
>> move to the new interface(s).  Smart programmers have done so.
>
> Agreed.
>

It always takes a long time to remove something which has been used for 
years - no matter what the product/language/OS/whatever.  I think ZEND 
has been very proactive in warning people about it going away, and will 
continue to do so for a while to come before it is actually removed.

Unfortunately, there will still be a lot of sites (especially CMS's) 
where the webmaster is not a programmer, and so won't see the message 
until it's too late.  Sure, the CMS's can change their code to not use 
(or give the option to use) mysql_(), but many of those same webmasters 
don't update their sites because they don't see a need to.

So you can bet that eventually many sites will break - just like they 
did when PHP changed the default for register_globals, changed session 
variable handling and any number of other changes - despite the fact 
these had been deprecated for years before being removed.

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Jerry Stuckle
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the changeover to mysqli richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-09-24 22:38 -0400
  Re: the changeover to mysqli Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-24 23:48 -0400
    Re: the changeover to mysqli Adam Harvey <usenet@adamharvey.name> - 2013-09-25 17:29 +0000
      Re: the changeover to mysqli richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-09-25 15:01 -0400
        Re: the changeover to mysqli Adam Harvey <usenet@adamharvey.name> - 2013-09-25 19:28 +0000
          Re: the changeover to mysqli richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-09-25 16:21 -0400
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-09-25 22:36 +0200
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Adam Harvey <usenet@adamharvey.name> - 2013-09-25 20:38 +0000
              Re: the changeover to mysqli richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-09-25 20:16 -0400
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-25 21:11 +0000
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2013-09-25 17:46 -0400
              Re: the changeover to mysqli Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-26 18:28 -0400
        Re: the changeover to mysqli Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-09-25 22:38 +0100
          Re: the changeover to mysqli Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-09-25 23:58 +0200
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-25 22:53 -0400
              Re: the changeover to mysqli Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-09-26 20:59 +0200
                Re: the changeover to mysqli Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-26 15:41 -0400
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-09-27 01:09 +0200
      Re: the changeover to mysqli Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-25 15:34 -0400
        Re: the changeover to mysqli Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-09-25 23:32 +0200
          Re: the changeover to mysqli Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-25 22:54 -0400
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 05:30 +0200
              Re: the changeover to mysqli Curtis Dyer <dyer85@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 06:13 +0000
            Re: the changeover to mysqli Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-26 18:32 -0400
  Re: the changeover to mysqli Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-09-24 21:14 -0700
  Re: the changeover to mysqli David Robley <me@home.invalid> - 2013-09-25 13:50 +0930

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