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Re: Zip Codes ctype? Pregmatch?

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On 2013-08-31 08:17, Gordon Burditt wrote:
>> I'm attempting to check for US and Canadian zip codes (postal codes). 
> 
> For what purpose?  The reason I ask is that the type of checking you
> do may depend on the reason for the checking.
> 
> What do you want to do with the (US) ZIP code?
[..snip..]
> If your requirement is to check because you want to check, you don't
> care WHAT you check, you just wanna check!  You WANNA!  You WANNA!
> You WANNA! then I have to wonder if the whole project should be
> dropped.

If he had no reason to collect the postal codes at all, he wouldn't have
put them in the form (I hope). As soon as he does collect and store them
somewhere (like a database), for whatever purpose, he needs to do some
basic formal/plausibility checking.

This would be true even if he didn't limit the input to US and Canadian
codes. There are some general assumptions you can make about postal
codes that are valid everywhere in the world. For example

- no valid code will start/end with white space
- codes will never be longer than 20 characters
- codes without any alphanumeric characters are never valid

This is just basic data hygiene. I would never store user input without
at least checking the known formal constraints of the field.

The more he knows about the codes, the more he can check. This is where
the formal validation for the US/Canadian codes comes in. The general
format is known. If he has this information, he should use it, if only
to prevent some categories of typos.

Checking if a postal code is actually assigned to a real location at
this point in time, or if a certain delivery method is available to the
location - that's well outside the area of formal checks. If this level
of validation is required, he'll need an API from the delivery service
(or whoever is going to use the code). Then he needs to validate the
code at least twice: once on entry and once before sending out an actual
package.

> The USA is easy.  Rejecting 00000 and 99999 is simple, and you don't
> worry about the other 57,998 or so codes that might get used in the
> future.
> 
> Unless you can find a general specification for Canadian Postal
> codes, *NOT* what's currently in use, you're probably better off
> allowing A-Z everywhere a letter is currently allowed.

Good advice.

> You might also exclude H0H 0H0, which is reserved for Santa Claus.

Just wondering... why does Santa Claus have a Canadian postal code?
The geographic north pole outside Canadian territory. If his house was
as close to the north pole as he can get while still remaining on firm
land, he should have a Danish postal code.

regards,
5er

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Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-20 13:27 -0400
  Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-08-20 11:59 -0600
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-20 15:01 -0400
  Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2013-08-20 13:08 -0500
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-20 15:03 -0400
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2013-08-20 14:36 -0500
        Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-20 20:17 -0400
  Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? RESOLVED Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-20 15:06 -0400
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? RESOLVED Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-08-20 19:53 -0400
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? RESOLVED Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-20 20:29 -0400
        Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? RESOLVED Moon Elf <moonelf@moonelfsystem.net> - 2013-12-16 10:02 +0000
          Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? RESOLVED Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-12-16 12:27 +0000
  Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-08-20 19:52 -0400
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-21 14:53 +0200
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-21 14:58 +0200
        Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-21 15:06 +0200
          Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Curtis Dyer <dyer85@gmail.com> - 2013-08-24 10:22 +0000
            Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-24 12:52 +0200
            Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-08-25 14:31 +0000
              Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-25 13:21 -0400
            Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-25 13:17 -0400
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-21 19:10 -0400
        Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? BootNic <bootnic.bounce@gmail.com> - 2013-08-21 22:09 -0400
          Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-22 18:22 -0400
  Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2013-08-21 21:25 +1000
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-21 18:53 -0400
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-08-21 22:46 -0400
  Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? gordonb.qnlcm@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2013-08-31 01:17 -0500
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-08-31 16:40 +0200
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-08-31 11:56 -0400
        Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Welsh Vanner <welshvanners@welsh-vanners.co.uk> - 2013-08-31 20:23 +0100
        Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-31 20:21 -0400
      Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-08-31 09:56 -0600
    Re: Zip Codes  ctype? Pregmatch? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-31 20:07 -0400

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