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On 16/08/13 17:10, Twayne wrote:
> On 2013-08-16 7:24 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 16/08/13 11:48, Norman Peelman wrote:
>>> On 08/16/2013 06:25 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/13 01:21, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>    Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing code cleanup; something that seemed so simple is giving me lots
>>>>> of trouble for whatever reason.
>>>>>
>
> ...
>
>>>
>>> As well as:
>>>
>>> if (!strlen(var1) || !strlen(var2) || !strlen(var3))
>>>
>>>
>> Yebbut, for twayne, that may be taking things a step too far..
>
> Perhaps, but I don't think so. While many things in PHP are still
> unknown to me, a lot is known to me. I've gained a LOT of knowledge
> over the last few months and have put 99% of it to use. My goal hasn't
> been to learn all there is about PHP and likely never will be since
> IMO learning how/where to find answers, understand the syntax
> properly, error checking, sessions, arrays and the like have been my
> recent goals. I write online PHP forms for websites and that's where
> my attentions are focused until I know them well. The "manual" at
> php.net and w3 schools IMO are the best "bibles" plus a few other
> places like NAS and Tizag are pretty good too, among others.
>

well counting left and right brackets is fundamental programming, and
someone who makes such a basic mistake *and doesn't see it*  is pretty
new to the game.

As I said, the ! operator is less intuitive than '==0' to me anyway,
though after years of C its second nature.


>>
>> many many years ago when I was a real noob and learning C without the
>> benefit of any training courses,  I had to revisit some code to find two
>> bugs in it. The new person who had taken over asked me why I had never
>> used a particular language construct.  I replied 'because at the time, I
>> didn't know it existed'
>>
>> Trainee coders are often dumped into maintenance.  One should be kind to
>> them. And with advances in modern compilers, there is no speed or
>> compiled code size penalty in being explicit at the source code level.
>>
>> We were all noobs once.
>>
>
> While I appreciate your attitude toward noobies, I've found over the
> years that words such as this are never understood by over-sized ego's
> or OTOH might draw some flames. I've come across several of that type
> on other newsgroups and forums I participate on. Mostly it's best just
> to ignore their posts. Personally I'll usually respond in kind to such
> a thing one time and then simply ignore them.
>
by definition at this particular  game you ARE a noob. or you wouldn't
have missed the unmatched brackets. I  ceratyinly d0nt see that as any
reflection on unerlying intelligence...teh first program I wrte in
assembler I copied exactly out of a book. It didnt assemble. Then I took
the line numbers out. It still didn't assemble. Then I removed all
leading spaces from every line. That did work. That took two 4 hour
sessions of frustration.

I wasn't stupid. I simply had no idea, nor did the documentation say,
that line numbers and spaces were tabu.



> I do thank you for your attitude, however,
>
> Twayne`


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  Re: AND and OR Paul Herber <paul@pherber.com> - 2013-08-16 01:30 +0100
    Re: AND and OR Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-08-16 13:08 +0200
    Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-16 12:14 -0400
  Re: AND and OR "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-08-15 20:08 -0500
  Re: AND and OR Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-08-16 08:52 +0100
    Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-16 11:19 -0400
  Re: AND and OR The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-16 11:25 +0100
    Re: AND and OR Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-08-16 06:48 -0400
      Re: AND and OR The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-16 12:24 +0100
        Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-16 12:10 -0400
          Re: AND and OR The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-16 17:35 +0100
            Re: AND and OR Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-08-16 17:47 +0100
              Re: AND and OR The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-16 18:13 +0100
                Re: AND and OR Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-08-17 07:20 -0700
                Re: AND and OR The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-17 15:36 +0100
                Re: AND and OR Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-08-17 10:47 -0700
                Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-17 14:05 -0400
                Re: AND and OR The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-17 19:40 +0100
              Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-17 13:27 -0400
            Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-17 13:22 -0400
          Re: AND and OR Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-08-17 07:19 -0700
      Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-16 11:53 -0400
    Re: AND and OR Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-16 11:42 -0400

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