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| From | crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.os.linux, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, comp.lang.php |
| Subject | Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? |
| Date | 2013-02-03 04:20 -0700 |
| Organization | NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $23.95 |
| Message-ID | <kelh6g01gp8@news3.newsguy.com> (permalink) |
| References | <kejss302gi7@news6.newsguy.com> <an6qlcFq3gtU1@mid.uni-berlin.de> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 02/03/2013 02:58 AM, M. Strobel wrote: > Am 02.02.2013 21:27, schrieb crankypuss: >> (Apologies for the cross-post.) >> >> I don't like bash, haven't seen anything that crude since back in the days when I was >> writing FORTRAN and BASIC, so I've been writing all of my local applications in PHP. >> >> The folks who frequent comp.lang.php seem to be pretty web-centric which makes sense >> as far as that goes. The folks who frequent the various Linux fora seem pretty >> bash-centric which also makes sense as far as that goes. >> >> As an aside, I've been using Linux for long enough now to realize how shell-centric >> it is as an operating system; I'm somewhat blown away by that but it too makes its >> own kind of sense. >> >> Is there a forum where the other folks (presuming there are any) who have been >> writing applications in PHP hang out? Don't say "yeah dummy, go to comp.lang.python" >> please, my homor quotient is maxed out for today. <g> > > The way it is now is the result of usage patterns and hype. > > Just from memory, and I'm talking about usage, not existence: > > First was the original (Bourne) shell, then came the Korn shell with some > improvements you see now in the "Bourne again" shell. Then there was the perl hype. > Then there was a short hype about Tcl, when after installation you had to build your > kernel, and could do "make xconfig" (Tcl/Tk script). Only then came PHP as "private > home page generator" or so. No wonder PHP is not used much on the command line. > Python was last to come. > > Yes I think PHP Cli has got all it takes for programming, even signal handling. But > in system administration the bash is the shell that starts Linux up. And for > applications don't forget C, C++, Java, Pascal, and many many many ... > > /Str. > The big question in my sick mind is whether to build a distro that uses PHP as its primary scripting language or build a new language that's what PHP could have been if it hadn't been mucked-about by all and sundry who gave it functions like is_array() and isset() and when a language doesn't even have consistent naming conventions well there ya go. <g> Then they stuck on some OOP functionality and OOP is what everybody thinks is the hot item but it's clumsier than hell to have to pass around a this-pointer and you can't slip another layer into an existing class derivation without rewriting half the world. Of course at the same time there's the struggle over screen i/o, everybody and his brother wants GUI which is fine except that character mode has its uses as well. The obvious compromise is an embedded app that uses PHP to write pages to an internal browser rendering engine but html has its limitations and damned if I'm wanting to get involved in javascript. Meanwhile back at the ranch I'm building applications based on a character-mode abstraction that runs on top of ncurses and just basically working my way out in both directions from there. Everybody needs a hobby, right? <g>
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anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-02 13:27 -0700
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> - 2013-02-02 14:57 -0600
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-03 03:45 -0700
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> - 2013-02-03 06:00 -0600
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-02-02 16:27 -0500
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-03 03:49 -0700
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-03 11:00 +0000
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-02-03 10:17 -0500
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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-03 10:58 +0100
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-03 04:20 -0700
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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-02-03 23:13 +0000
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-04 17:21 +0100
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-04 16:28 +0000
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2013-02-03 14:26 -0600
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2013-02-04 11:37 +0000
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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-06 04:32 -0700
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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-05 14:08 +0100
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-05 12:24 -0700
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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? GooseMan <TheGoose@gonnagiveittothegander.org> - 2013-02-06 21:38 -0800
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-07 15:13 +0100
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> - 2013-02-10 08:09 -0600
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-02-05 12:10 -0700
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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-05 22:32 +0000
Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? Meeh <meeh@i2pmail.org> - 2013-02-05 17:51 +0100
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