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"Erwin Moller" <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> escribió en el mensaje 
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>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I think you can do thousands of roads.
> It really depends on what you want to achieve.
>
> A few considerations for you that pop into my head that are general in 
> nature:
>
> Pick a language:
> Are you sure you want to study PHP further?
> Why not C or C++ or Java or etc.etc.?
> If you want to focus on webtechnology, there is also MS dotnet and Ruby On 
> Rails, and etc.etc.
> Not that I want to send you elsewhere. :-)
> But why do you pick PHP? Because it is easy?
> I know it is very hard to tell upfront what language is good for you 
> (since you don't know the others), but it certainly is worth some thought.
> PHP is very web focussed. You will never write a device driver in PHP, or 
> a cool piece of 3D graphics software.
> But for the web, PHP is very good.
>
>
> Framework or no Framework?
> These days many people work with frameworks. Frameworks have the advantage 
> of hiding complexity, but they add bureaucracy, in some cases to the level 
> that programming is no fun anymore, a situation that should be avoided at 
> all costs.
> If you want to learn, I suggest you do it without frameworks. Later on, 
> when you made a lot of costly mistakes, you will be in a much better 
> position to decide if you need one (or even write your own.).
>
>
> Try to work modular/components/objects.
> I express myself vaguely on purpose.
> Bottonline: If you think you solved some particular problem do the 
> following:
> 1) sit back and take a cup of coffee.
> 2) Try to describe what you just did. What kind of input are you taking? 
> What problem did you solve? WHat types of output can you produce? etc.
> 3) Pull the thing OUT of your code, and make a class for it, or a 
> function, or whatever suits your needs.
> Then use that new component from within your code.
> Also: Document it, store it somewhere where you can find it, preferably 
> with some clear description attached to it.
> You don't want to wander through your "clever classes" directory and see 
> names like:
> Test23_ver2
> MyGodmodule
> MyEmailer_ver2(I think)
> myEmailer
> Emailer
> etc.
> If you do this right, you will end up with a bunch of classes and 
> functions you will be proud of. You can even add funky stuff like 
> unittesting later on.
>
> And last:
> Let others review your code.
> Let others review your code!
> (3 times more)
> Simply post in here a function, even a whole script, or some approach you 
> have just finished, and ask for opinions.
> Don't use an online forum, most I have seen are poor and filled with 
> people who want to score karma-points or some other useless nonsense.
> This group is pretty good.
>
> There exist as many programming-styles as there are programmers.
> Nonetheless, you will make rookie-mistakes, and more experienced 
> programmers will catch them easily (mostly because they made the same 
> mistakes themselves earlier.).
> Don't be shy and remember most experienced programmers became experienced 
> by having their OWN code reviewed (in a public forum or in private, 
> doesn't matter).
> For example: Do you really need to have your website screwed up by some 
> SQL injection to learn to escape your input? Of course not: if somebody 
> tells you how that works, and you understand it, it comes natural. But 
> first you must have heard of the concept SQL injection.
>
> Oh well, I talk too much. :-)
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller


Best advice! 

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