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Re: problem saving date fields

From "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: problem saving date fields
Date 2011-05-21 20:30 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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In news:ir9jom$663$1@dont-email.me,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> typed:
> On 5/21/2011 12:08 PM, Jeff North wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2011 10:32:20 -0400, in comp.lang.php
>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
>> <ir8idn$ojm$1@dont-email.me>  wrote:
>>
>>>> On 5/20/2011 11:13 PM, Jeff North wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Several pieces of unrelated items snipped>
>>>>
>>>>>  On Fri, 20 May 2011 22:35:03 -0400, in comp.lang.php
>>>>>  Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
>>>>>  <ir78cp$53s$1@dont-email.me>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  |>
>>>>>>  |>   How are you setting the $arrival_* and
>>>>>>  $depature_* values? |
>>>>>>  |  From the input - after is is sent from his form.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Therefore the variables aren't initialised and would
>>>>>  cause php errors - right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not if he's programmed correctly
>>
>> doubtful.
>>
>
> But you don't know that.
>
>>>> and is not using them.  There is no
>>>> need to initialize variables which are not being used.
>>
>> There is no need to have variables in the code that
>> aren't being used.
>
> Yes, there is.  In fact, it is quite common to have
> variables in the code which are not being use *at this
> time*.  And very good reasons for *not* initializing them
> - as a *programmer* would know.
>>>>>>  |>   If this is a new entry then all of the
>>>>>>  $arrival_* and $depature_* will |>   be null or
>>>>>>  zero - therefore the select options will not be |> automatically 
>>>>>> selected (View Source of the page to
>>>>>>  see if there are |>   any error messages within
>>>>>>  these lists). | | No, because he isn't setting them
>>>>>>  until after the form has been | displayed and the
>>>>>> user has made his selection.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Methinks you are making too many assumptions - have
>>>>>  you seen the full source code of the page?
>>>>
>>>> No, but I've seen enough to understand what he's doing.
>>>>
>>>>>  Who said anything about "add a row every time the
>>>>>  page is displayed". According to your criteria there
>>>>>  would never be any edit pages - only add pages.
>>>>>
>>>>>  If editing an existing item wouldn't you want to
>>>>>  read the already stored data from the database?
>>>>
>>>> That's what it looked like you were trying to say.
>>>>
>>>>>  i.e.
>>>>>  // initialise variables to meaningful values
>>>>>  // if editing an existing entry
>>>>>  //    read record
>>>>>  //    overwrite initialised variables
>>>>>  // display the page
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Completely unnecessary to initialize values which are
>>>> not used.
>>
>> If you are not using the variables then they shouldn't
>> appear in the code in the first place - very sloppy
>> programming.
>
> Just because the are not being used *at this time*
> doesn't mean they shouldn't appear - as a *programmer*
> would understand.
>> [snip]
>>
>>>>>  The SQL statement should be ok - it's the "When I
>>>>>  change of them the other one gets set back to
>>>>> default: 00-00-0000" I'm considering.
>>>>
>>>> The SQL statement is NOT ok.  As he would find if he
>>>> printed it out as was suggested.
>>
>> If the SQL statement was not ok then the record wouldn't
>> be updated.
>
> Or the row (tables have ROWS, not RECORDS) is not being
> updated with the correct data - which is the case here. But then a 
> *programmer* would understand that.
>
>>>>>>  | BTW - your sig separator is broken.  It needs to
>>>>>>  be exactly | hyphen-hyphen-space-newline.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Oh Jerry is now the sig line cop :-P
>>>>>  Complain to the writers of Thunderbird as I couldn't
>>>>>  care less about whether or not my sig appears
>>>>>  'correctly' in your news reader. --
>>>>>  -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> The supplied code is for guideline purposes only.
>>>>
>>>> It has nothing to do with Thunderbird.  It has
>>>> EVERYTHING to do with following usenet standards, in
>>>> this case RFC 3736.
>>
>> Please highlight the line(s) from RFC 3736 that can back
>> up your claim.
>>
>>>> But I see you're as clueless about rfcs as you are
>>>> programming.
>> -- -------------------------------------------------
>> The supplied code is for guideline purposes only.
>
>
> Typo - the rfc is 3676, which you could find if you knew
> how to do a simple google search.  But that looks to be
> beyond your capability, also.
> There are three types of people who refuse to follow
> accepted practices: idiots, trolls and arrogant anal
> orifices.

And mr suckle has just shown you all three!  He's like that; a real idiot.

>
> Which are you?


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problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-20 11:38 -0700
  Re: problem saving date fields Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2011-05-20 20:50 +0200
  Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-21 08:58 +1000
    Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-20 22:35 -0400
      Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-21 13:13 +1000
        Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-20 23:47 -0700
          Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-21 00:18 -0700
            Re: problem saving date fields Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2011-05-21 09:54 +0200
            Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-21 10:37 -0400
              Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-21 08:07 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-21 19:55 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-22 14:20 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 17:28 -0400
        Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-21 10:32 -0400
          Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-22 02:08 +1000
            Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-21 20:01 -0400
              Re: problem saving date fields "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-21 20:30 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-21 23:13 -0400
              Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-22 14:28 +1000
                Re: problem saving date fields Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-22 12:45 +0200
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 08:26 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-22 09:20 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-23 00:08 +1000
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 13:47 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-22 14:17 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 14:26 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-22 16:27 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-23 09:01 +1000
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 20:21 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-22 21:36 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 21:46 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-23 12:20 +1000
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-22 22:30 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-22 21:51 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 07:13 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 10:18 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 10:27 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 14:16 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 12:17 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 18:00 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 22:30 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-24 05:45 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-26 02:10 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-26 05:43 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Co <vonclausowitz@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 14:26 -0700
                Re: problem saving date fields Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-23 18:01 -0400
                Re: problem saving date fields Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-23 23:59 +0200
                Re: problem saving date fields "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-22 09:11 -0400

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