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Re: Undefined variable

From "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: Undefined variable
Date 2013-04-25 22:05 +0200
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Am 25.04.2013 20:23, schrieb Denis McMahon:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:10:24 +0200, M. Strobel wrote:
> 
>> I propose a new reading of "PHP Notice: undefined variable...", it goes:
>>
>>    Hey, you are using a variable that is not defined. I will put a null
> ..........................................................^^^^
> 
> *might*
> 
>>    into it.
>>    Because I will make it easy for you.
>>    If you don't care I won't either.
> 
> + some lines:
>      I may put some random value there instead.
>      The double I use now might not be the string I use next.
>      Or the integer I used last.
>      
>>    Maybe you expected the variable to contain something,
>>    and your app logic will be screwed up.
>>    It will be _a_lot_of_ work to find the error, but that's your
>>    problem.
> 
> (edited to be more complete and future proof)
> 

ah, a new community project :-)

I thought (and read) the variables were defined after being accessed, but they are
not. Very strange decisions of the PHP makers. Console log:

> echo $a, PHP_EOL;
PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: a in /usr/local/bin/myreadline.php(42) : eval()'d
code on line 1

> var_dump($a);
PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: a in /usr/local/bin/myreadline.php(42) : eval()'d
code on line 1
NULL
> if ($a==0.0) echo "yes\n";
PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: a in /usr/local/bin/myreadline.php(42) : eval()'d
code on line 1
yes
> var_dump($a);
PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: a in /usr/local/bin/myreadline.php(42) : eval()'d
code on line 1
NULL

/Str.

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        Re: Undefined variable Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 18:23 +0000
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