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Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script]

Date 2012-01-10 23:02 +0100
From Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script]
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On 10-01-2012 22:31, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> M. Strobel wrote:
>>>> Am 10.01.2012 20:56, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>>> On 1/10/2012 11:16 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>>>> Am 10.01.2012 13:54, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>>>>> On 1/10/2012 7:33 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>> Luuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 09-01-2012 23:08, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.01.2012 23:04, schrieb Luuk:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 09-01-2012 21:53, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just omit the closing tag in php-only files, it's easier
>>>>>>>>>>>> than the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ob_ functions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Str.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you re-checked, could you also provide us with a link to
>>>>>>>>>>> where you
>>>>>>>>>>> found that info?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> search string was php closing tag
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.basic-syntax.instruction-separation.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Str.
>>>>>>>>> damn, they actually documented this UGLY feature ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ugly, but damed usefull as my editor has a habit of adding an
>>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>>> newline to the end of text files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So get a good editor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now why should he "get a good editor" if he can omit the
>>>>>> closing tag?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Str.
>>>>> Because leaving off the close tag can cause problems later when
>>>>> someone else edits the site, assuming close tags are there.
>>>>>
>>>>> And leaving off a closing tag to get round an editor problem is
>>>>> just plain sloppy programming.  But we already know certain
>>>>> people here don't care about that.
>>>>>
>>>> He has no editor problem, he can leave the closing tag off. Don't
>>>> send him off in a goose chase.
>>>>
>>>> I knew who would not be comfortable with this easy solution.
>>>>
>>> Only because
>>>
>>> (a) he didn't know it
>>>  and
>>> (b) I said it was useful.
>>>
>>> NOTHING is easier than typing a ?> and then following it with a carriage
>>> return..
>>
>> How horrible. Are people really suggesting this hard to spot (when you
>> dont know it) hack as a way to develop code?  Leaving off closing
>> tags?!?!? 
> 
> 
> It's not a 'closing tag' : its a switch to tell php to drop back into
> 'spit out the source file raw' mode.
> 

it's NOT a switch to tell php to drop back into some other mode...

> If you don't ever want it to do that...it seems a valid reasonable and
> apparently valid-in-terms-of-the-language-as-specified way to do it.
> 

yes, something is specified

> If the spec says its intrinsic to the language, a feature,  it can't be
> a hack can it?
> 

it's not a hack

> How many people add semicolons to the last line of a CSS style block
> definition?

i recently installed drupal on a (test)system

when i do this:

cd ....drupal
$ grep -lir '?>' * | wc -l
124
$ find * -name "*.php" -type f | wc -l
151

(124 files with (at-least 1) closing tag,
 151 files with the extension '.php')

and not even all php-files have the '.php' extension.....

$ grep -lr '<?php' * | wc -l
1000

(1000 files with the php-opening-tag)

so, some 'programmers' seem to RELY on this behaviour ;-(


-- 
Luuk

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this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script srikanth <sritullimilli@gmail.com> - 2012-01-09 07:23 -0800
  Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script Captain Paralytic <paul_lautman@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-09 07:37 -0800
    Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-01-09 17:25 +0100
      Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-09 17:35 +0000
        Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-09 19:48 +0100
          Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-09 19:33 +0000
            Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-09 21:20 +0100
              Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-09 20:38 +0000
                Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-09 21:53 +0100
                Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-01-09 23:04 +0100
                Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-09 23:08 +0100
                ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-01-10 11:58 +0100
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] Captain Paralytic <paul_lautman@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-10 03:15 -0800
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-10 12:34 +0000
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] Captain Paralytic <paul_lautman@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-10 05:24 -0800
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-10 12:33 +0000
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-10 07:54 -0500
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not   getting images throuh php script] "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-10 17:16 +0100
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not   getting images throuh php script] Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-01-10 14:56 -0500
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not     getting images throuh php script] "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-10 22:08 +0100
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not     getting images throuh php script] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-10 21:11 +0000
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] Richard <rgrdev_@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 22:23 +0100
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-10 21:31 +0000
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not   getting images throuh php script] "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-01-10 22:45 +0100
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP   [Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script] Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-01-10 23:02 +0100
                Re: ommiting closeing tag in PHP Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-16 01:30 +0100
            Re: this is my code i am not getting images throuh php script Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2012-01-11 15:51 +0100

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