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| From | Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.php |
| Subject | Re: getting started with encryption |
| Date | Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:25:12 -0400 |
| Organization | Ahungry (http://ahungry.com) |
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gordonb.1o7q6@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) writes: >>> Don't matter, it's still insecure and untrustworthy, even if you >>> use SSL on the intranet web server, but I do recommend usage of >>> SSL even in an internal network, as not only outsiders may be >>> keen on mischief, many times you have someone internally who is >>> the bad guy or assisting someone outside. >> >> In this case, the only inside people are the ones with access >> privileges already > > Really? Does that include the janitor? The guy who sprays for > termites and roaches? Patients? Children of employees? Burglars? > >> The key is then kept in a mySQL MEMORY engine table and >> the table is DROPed at logout >> >> This would protect against server theft - unless they steal the >> UPS too. No one but the superuser knows the key. (of course the >> key needs to be kept in a secure place... just in case) > > You *DO* have encrypted swap, don't you? Otherwise you don't have > protection for the key in a MEMORY table. > > There are also supposed to be some techniques for freezing the > memory to lengthen the retention time to hours after power-off, but > there are likely only a few people who can do that well. > > The regulations for medical information are complicated enough that > even if the information *IS* safe, you can still get in trouble for > not being able to *PROVE* it's safe. You're taking risks similar > to having unprotected sex with an Ebola patient. Even if you survive > the disease, you're likely to have everything in your house burned. > You probably need a lawyer as a project leader for this project. > And don't let programmers not certified in handling medical information > work on the code, or even read it. This is a pretty cool link that popped up on HN yesterday: http://catalyzeio.github.io/policies/ -- Matthew Carter (m@ahungry.com) http://ahungry.com
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getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-10 14:46 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2014-10-10 16:36 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@sympatico.ca> - 2014-10-10 18:53 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-11 09:07 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-11 07:59 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-11 10:36 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-11 10:42 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-11 11:45 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-11 18:38 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-11 15:16 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-12 10:53 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-12 08:17 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-12 08:47 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-12 11:04 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-12 11:13 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J. Clarke" <jclarkeusenet@cox.net> - 2014-10-12 15:12 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-12 21:45 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-12 15:53 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-12 10:07 -0400
How - off topic bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-12 11:05 -0400
Re: How - off topic "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-12 17:27 +0200
Re: How - off topic Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-12 17:23 +0000
Re: How - off topic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-10-12 18:49 +0100
Re: How - off topic bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-13 09:24 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-12 11:01 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-12 11:19 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-13 08:38 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-13 09:18 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption - now off topic with gratuitous insults bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-13 10:36 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption - now off topic with gratuitous insults Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-13 12:14 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-12 08:15 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-12 15:52 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-12 11:17 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-12 17:45 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-13 08:58 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-13 09:23 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-13 10:44 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-10-13 12:20 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-15 21:52 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption gordonb.1o7q6@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2014-10-16 12:13 -0500
Re: getting started with encryption Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2014-10-16 15:25 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-18 08:13 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-18 07:52 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2014-10-18 14:46 +0200
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-19 07:47 -0400
Re: getting started with encryption Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-10-12 17:30 +0000
Re: getting started with encryption bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2014-10-13 08:59 -0400
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