Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all()

From	Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
Subject	Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all()
Date	2016-01-14 22:41 +0100
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Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2016-01-14 um 22:06:

> On 1/14/2016 2:07 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2016-01-14 um 15:18:
>>
>>> On 1/14/2016 2:13 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle schrieb am 2016-01-14 um 02:52:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>> ROFLMAO!  Stoopid is as stoopid does.  Nothing more than a troll.  You
>>>>> don't even know what a common term like "human readable" means.
>>>>
>>>> I do.
>>>>
>>>>> How about reading this:  "ardo nmwp wccdcw pnebow"?  It's all ASCII.
>>>>
>>>> And I can read it perfectly.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then what does it mean?
>>
>> That's irrelevant.
>>
> 
> Only because it's not readable to you.

No - because it's irrelevant to answer the question if the text is
readable. I can read the text. I don't need to understand what it means.
I also don't know every language in the world - but as long is I can
read the letters the words are still readable for me, like "o inatci
adam" which you may not understand but you can read it, or not?

>>>>> Now what does it mean?  According to you, it is "Human Readable".
>>>>
>>>> It is. Or can't you read the letters? You still mix up "readable" with
>>>> "understandable".
>>>>
>>>
>>> What does it mean?  Reading includes comprehension - which requires
>>> understanding.
>>
>> No. You still don't understand what the *DEFINITION* of "human readable" is.
>>
> 
> Yes, I do.  But you have zero clue - as usual.

You don't.


>>>> I found that printed below a bar code on a product in the supermarket:
>>>> "004980 534100"
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's the product code for that item.
>>
>> And how do you know this? There is no text indicating that this is a
>> product code - it's just a number.
>>
> 
> Because you told me the context.

I did not. I just say there is a code on the product. This does not mean
that this is the product code. In fact it isn't. But this is irrelevant
- the numbers are there to be understood, but to be *readable*. One can
read them and enter them into a computer in case the barcode scanner
does recognize the code.

[...]
>>> Reading includes comprehension - which requires understanding.  That's
>>> why children learn to read.
>>
>> And first of all children learn the meaning of letters - thats why
>> *letters* are called "human readable". If one also *understands* the
>> meaning of the letters depends on the *context* and the *knowledge* of
>> the person about the text. Just because "ardo nmwp wccdcw pnebow" does
>> not have any meaning for you or me it does *not* mean that it can not be
>> *read*, letter by letter.
>>
> 
> Yes, but learning the letters does not give them the capability of
> reading.  But you're wrong - "ardo nmwp wccdcw pnebow" does have a
> meaning for me.  But you can't understand it.

Which is irrelevant - I still can read the letters. And if someone else
asks me, what I have read I can say "ardo nmwp wccdcw pnebow". It does
not matter what this means. That's the reason why "human readable" does
not require that people *understand* what's written - they just need to
be able to *read* it.

Another example:

LDA #$00
STA REV
JSR Init
CLD
LDX #$FF
TXS
LDX #$C8
STX SP2

Do you recognize this kind of text? No? But you still can read the
letters like "LDA" or "STA REV" or "JSR Init".

So would call the above example "not human readable"?


-- 
Arno Welzel
http://arnowelzel.de
http://de-rec-fahrrad.de
http://fahrradzukunft.de

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parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all()  "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-06 17:18 +0100
  Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-06 19:28 +0000
    Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-06 20:50 +0100
      Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-06 21:12 +0000
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-06 16:20 -0500
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 02:23 +0000
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2016-01-06 21:48 -0500
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2016-01-06 21:52 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 10:20 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 10:56 +0000
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 12:55 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-07 08:36 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 13:58 +0000
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 15:33 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 15:31 +0000
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 18:23 +0100
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-06 22:50 -0500
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 10:10 +0100
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 10:03 +0100
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-07 08:38 -0500
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 14:05 +0000
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-07 13:42 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 20:24 +0000
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-07 15:27 -0500
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 09:51 +0100
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 11:18 +0000
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 14:00 +0100
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-07 14:00 +0000
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 16:19 +0100
      Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-11 09:11 +0100
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-11 08:04 -0500
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-11 23:48 +0100
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-12 00:41 +0100
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-11 20:53 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-12 05:40 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 09:12 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-12 21:43 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 16:12 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-12 22:28 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 16:35 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-13 06:39 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-13 08:26 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 08:10 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-13 14:49 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 10:08 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-13 18:50 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 15:06 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-13 23:11 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 17:18 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-13 23:27 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 19:17 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 01:30 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 20:52 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 08:13 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-14 09:18 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 20:07 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-14 16:06 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 22:41 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-14 22:35 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 10:24 +1300
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 17:20 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 12:14 +1300
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-13 19:18 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 08:34 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@geostat.dk> - 2016-01-14 09:20 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:56 +1300
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-14 16:08 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 22:55 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-14 16:59 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-14 23:09 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-15 11:17 +1300
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-14 19:15 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-14 19:14 -0500
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-11 20:50 -0500
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-12 05:42 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-12 08:41 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 09:13 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-12 21:44 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 16:13 -0500
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-12 22:29 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 16:33 -0500
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-12 00:49 +0100
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-11 20:54 -0500
  Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 11:17 +0100
    Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 13:49 +0100
      Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 14:20 +0100
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 15:31 +0100
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 16:00 +0100
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-07 13:45 -0500
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-07 20:18 +0100
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-07 20:52 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-07 15:29 -0500
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-01-07 22:42 +0000
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-08 10:43 +0100
  Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-11 09:07 +0100
    Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-11 08:05 -0500
      Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-01-11 23:51 +0100
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-12 00:31 +0100
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-11 20:55 -0500
        Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 11:11 +0100
          Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 11:54 +0100
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-12 11:25 +0000
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 13:41 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-01-12 14:11 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remainsunanswered ... "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 14:34 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remainsunanswered ... "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-01-12 15:03 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - questionremainsunanswered ... "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 15:50 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - questionremainsunanswered ... "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-01-12 16:36 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - Solved. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 21:28 +0100
                Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-12 14:02 +0000
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-01-12 12:42 +0100
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remainsunanswered ... "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 14:20 +0100
            Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remains unanswered ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-01-12 09:43 -0500
              Re: parsing print_r() output with preg_match_all() - question remainsunanswered ... "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2016-01-12 16:11 +0100

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