Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data?

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Simon, 14.06.2012 10:35:

> We have a site where many users can login/logout, (giving them access to
> their personal information).
> 
> The users have 2 choices, either we 'remember' the user after they close
> their browsers or not, (for up to 30 days).

Which means, everybody who copies the cookie has access to the personal
information.

> It was suggested that I base64_encode/base64_decode the data as a cookie
> but I am not sure about the security implications of doing that, (the
> way I see it, if they can get the session cookie then they can just as
> well access the base64_encoded data anyway).

Yep.

> We have an https site, but we also allow login/access via http.
> 
> Any tutorial/reading material/suggestions on how I can store logged in
> users credentials.

You can't. Either you ask the user to enter the password/key *always* or
the application becomes less secure, since the only security is that the
cookie is not copied by an attacker. There is no "comfortable" way.


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Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Simon <bad@example.com> - 2012-06-14 10:35 +0200
  Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-14 07:46 -0400
  Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-14 13:52 +0100
    Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-14 12:30 -0400
      Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-15 08:46 +0100
        Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-15 07:04 -0400
          Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-15 16:20 +0100
            Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-15 16:25 -0400
              Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-18 19:02 +0100
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-18 15:13 -0400
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-18 23:12 +0100
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-18 21:30 -0400
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2012-06-19 08:37 +0200
  Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2012-06-15 22:44 +0200

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