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Bertrand Mayesky wrote:

> Le Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:41:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher a écrit :
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> Scott Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 8/23/2012 8:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> On 8/22/2012 6:36 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Heller wrote:
>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/22/2012 1:18 AM, sismaster wrote:
>>>>>>>>> i want to know how can i see what object include in java script
>>>>>>>>> and is there any tool to see what object contains
>>>>>>>> PHP runs on the server; Javascript runs on the client.  They
>>>>>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>                           ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>> cannot "see" each other.
>>>>>> Wrong on both accounts.
> […]
> I'm sure that PointedEars is not correct: the client structure cannot be
> natively seen by the server and vice versa.

Of course, that is mistakenly assuming that I stated such nonsense in the 
first place.  Automatic line-wrapping when they were quoted, moved the 
markings and obscured the message.  Fixed here (as always, use a fixed-width 
font on Usenet to see it).  I am not entirely sure what you mean by "client 
structure" and "natively seen", though.

As for Wikipedia, I must recommend extreme caution particularly on this 
subject.  Due to the intended beginner's language nature of ECMAScript 
implementations, and a stream of beginners getting overconfident because of 
early success, more than 90% written about this subject, and using the 
corresponding languages, on the Web and elsewhere is utter nonsense.  (This 
includes books.)  Unfortunately, the Wikipedia articles about it are no 
exception, and given the number of wannabes, correction of them on my part, 
for example, is not likely to have a lasting effect.  If you want to learn 
something about this, subscribe to comp.lang.javascript instead.

> It is not a matter of programming language: they do not share the same
> data space as it is in the client-server paradigm.

I am not sure what the second part of this statement is supposed to mean 
with regard to this dispute: This (the Web) certainly is a good example of 
the client-server _model_ (the browser providing the HTTP client, the Web 
server the HTTP server), and there is no *implicit* sharing of data space 
there.  Only the first part of the statement is certainly correct.


PointedEars
-- 
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
  -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>

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How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue sismaster <singh.ranalko@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 22:18 -0700
  Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-22 06:43 -0400
    Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-08-22 06:06 -0500
      Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-22 08:17 -0400
      Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-23 00:36 +0200
        Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-23 00:54 +0100
        Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-23 11:03 -0400
          Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2012-08-23 11:10 -0700
            Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-24 00:27 +0200
              Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-23 23:41 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-23 23:43 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-23 20:05 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Bertrand Mayesky <not.a@real.adress.com> - 2012-08-24 21:42 +0000
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-25 00:22 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-24 19:37 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2012-08-25 10:30 +1000
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-24 22:39 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-25 13:17 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-25 09:38 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-08-25 13:34 -0500
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-25 14:59 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-08-25 14:13 -0500
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-25 16:23 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-26 20:33 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-26 20:32 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-26 19:49 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-25 00:45 +0100
              Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-23 20:03 -0400
          Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2012-08-26 15:46 +0200
            Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-26 10:41 -0400
              Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2012-08-26 17:42 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-26 19:02 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-26 19:52 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2012-08-27 02:59 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-26 21:28 -0400
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue mavigozler <mavigozler@turkiye.gov.invalid> - 2012-08-27 04:47 +0000
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-27 10:17 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue mavigozler <mavigozler@turkiye.gov.invalid> - 2012-08-27 11:32 +0000
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-27 12:49 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-08-27 22:46 +0000
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-27 23:51 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-08-27 21:00 -0400
            Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-08-26 10:35 -0500
              Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i  see what object inclue Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2012-08-26 18:53 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-26 20:47 +0200
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-26 22:59 +0100
                Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2012-08-27 00:20 +0200
  Re: How can i know the propery of a javascript object  how can i see what object inclue Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 01:46 +0000

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