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Re: Completely stumped (still)

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Christoph Michael Becker wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: 
>> Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
>>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>>                    $*_VARS were first.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the manual $HTTP_SESSION_VARS and $_SESSION are different
>>>>> variables, anyway.[1]
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] <http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.session.php>
>>>>
>>>> $_SESSION is a superglobal; $HTTP_SESSION_VARS is/was not (i.e., it
>>>> needs to be declared a global if it is to be accessed from local
>>>> context).   But I am quite certain that when both were still supported,
>>>> if you modified one, you modified the other (I have only PHP 5.5.9 to
>>>> test with, where there is no $HTTP_SESSION_VARS anymore).
>>>
>>> The manual says:
>>>
>>> | $HTTP_SESSION_VARS contains the same initial information, but is not
>>> | a superglobal. (Note that $HTTP_SESSION_VARS and $_SESSION are
>>> | different variables and that PHP handles them as such)
>> 
>> I *know* what the manual says.  That does not prove anything.
> 
> Testing on a single system might not prove much more, either.  Anyway, I
> tested the following script on PHP 5.2.13 (FCGI, register_globals=On or
> Off, register_long_arrays=On):
> 
>     <?php
> 
>     session_start();
>     var_dump($HTTP_SESSION_VARS["foo"]);
>     $_SESSION["foo"] = "bar";
>     var_dump($HTTP_SESSION_VARS["foo"]);
> 
> The result really surprised me:
> 
>  string(3) "bar" string(3) "bar"
> 
> The output is the same, if I switch $HTTP_SESSION_VARS and $_SESSION.  A
> similar test regarding $_GET and $HTTP_GET_VARS showed the documented
> behavior, by the way.
> 
> It seems that is a documentation bug.

ACK.

> However, I suppose that's mostly rrelevant now, because the bug tracker is
> concerned with PHP 5.4-5.6, and says wrt. earlier versions: "upgrade
> first".  But since PHP 5.4 register_long_arrays has been removed, so I
> conclude that the $HTTP_*_VARS have been removed also,

They have been removed indeed, as you can see in my PHP 5.5 test results.

I found it curiouser, though, that you can use “global” outside a function.  
And not only that (which makes some sense as the file can be included), but 
that apparently you can actually *declare* a global variable in PHP this way 
(in my case, the previously non-existing $HTTP_SESSION_VARS).

> in which case their documentation is even more in error, because it states
> they are deprecated, but doesn't mention that they have been removed.
> Now I am completely stumped.

ACK.


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Completely stumped Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-24 14:51 -0800
  Re: Completely stumped (still) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-24 15:53 -0800
    Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-25 01:11 +0100
      Re: Completely stumped (still) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-24 16:24 -0800
        Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-25 01:49 +0100
          Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-25 03:37 +0100
            Re: Completely stumped (still) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-02-24 22:01 -0500
              Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-25 19:38 +0100
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-02-25 14:06 -0500
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-25 20:28 +0100
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-02-25 16:04 -0500
    Re: Completely stumped (still) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-02-24 20:59 -0500
      Re: Completely stumped (still) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-24 19:00 -0800
        Re: Completely stumped (still) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-02-24 22:04 -0500
          Re: Completely stumped (still) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-24 21:09 -0800
            Re: Completely stumped (still) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-24 21:30 -0800
      Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-25 20:27 +0100
        Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-25 20:34 +0100
          Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-25 22:46 +0100
            Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-25 23:30 +0100
              Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-26 00:03 +0100
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-26 00:29 +0100
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-26 19:50 +0100
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-02-26 22:20 +0100
                Re: Completely stumped (still) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-02-27 00:21 +0100
        Re: Completely stumped (still) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2014-02-25 12:39 -0800
        Re: Completely stumped (still) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-02-25 16:06 -0500

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