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Re: [ Get Hostname ]

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: [ Get Hostname ]
Date 2015-05-13 20:37 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <1460004.zpnL6NzNTf@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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Matthew Carter wrote:

> gordonb.rtzee@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) writes:
>> So, the user's browser (which need not have any DNS associated with
>> its IP address) connects to site A with a request for a page.  As
>> part of that page, site A scrapes content from site B, a move which
>> seems to have copyright infringement as its only logical goal (unless
>> sites A and B have a common owner or an agreement to allow this),
>> and sends the contents back to the user's browser.
> 
> Granted in this case it probably is copyright infringement, but how does
> that work for dynamic scraping?

What do you mean?

> Is every web based proxy service performing copyright infringement to
> serve the remote pages as-is?

No, but this question is well beyond the scope of this newsgroup.

> Are the Google Cache pages infringing on copyright?

Depends (cf. Field vs. Google, Inc.)  But, first of all, “fair use” is a 
concept that does not exist in general outside of U.S. law, and “copyright” 
translates to various other rights in other countries.

If you forbade Googlebot to index your site and they would still cache it, 
that would probably constitute an infringement of copyright on the part of 
Google, Inc.  STFW (IANAL, and it took me only seconds to find that out).

-- 
PointedEars
Zend Certified PHP Engineer
Twitter: @PointedEars2
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[ Get Hostname ] alissonlinneker@gmail.com - 2015-05-11 17:10 -0700
  Re: [ Get Hostname ] "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2015-05-12 02:33 +0200
    Re: [ Get Hostname ] alissonlinneker@gmail.com - 2015-05-11 17:38 -0700
      Re: [ Get Hostname ] Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-05-11 20:55 -0400
  Re: [ Get Hostname ] gordonb.rtzee@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-05-12 01:22 -0500
    Re: [ Get Hostname ] Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-05-12 09:38 -0400
      Re: [ Get Hostname ] alissonlinneker@gmail.com - 2015-05-12 12:28 -0700
        Re: [ Get Hostname ] Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-05-12 17:09 -0400
          Re: [ Get Hostname ] alissonlinneker@gmail.com - 2015-05-12 14:12 -0700
            Re: [ Get Hostname ] Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2015-05-12 18:31 -0400
            Re: [ Get Hostname ] Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-05-12 21:52 -0400
        Re: [ Get Hostname ] gordonb.6xh3q@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2015-05-13 18:25 -0500
      Re: [ Get Hostname ] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-13 20:37 +0200
  Re: [ Get Hostname ] Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 12:09 +0000
  Re: [ Get Hostname ] alissonlinneker@gmail.com - 2015-05-12 17:13 -0700
    Re: [ Get Hostname ] Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-05-13 18:09 +0200
  Re: [ Get Hostname ] Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-05-18 09:56 +0200
    Re: [ Get Hostname ] Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-05-18 10:04 +0200
      Re: [ Get Hostname ] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-18 15:26 +0200
        Re: [ Get Hostname ] Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2015-05-18 15:53 +0200
          Re: [ Get Hostname ] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-18 15:58 +0200
        Re: [ Get Hostname ] "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2015-05-18 09:53 -0500
    Re: [ Get Hostname ] Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-05-18 11:30 -0400

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