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Re: preg_match() oddities and question

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From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Reply-To Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <php@PointedEars.de>
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Sandman wrote:

>  Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> >> With separate controls they can be sure where to enter what;
>> >> it is accessible, and you have no problem processing the data.  With
>> >> one control, neither applies.
>> > Well, I have been doing this for about ten years now,
>> I have been doing this for about fourteen years now.  So what?
> 
> You have monitored swedish address search terms for fourteen years? We
> should compare notes.

You are missing the point.  The kind of structured data that you need to 
enter in a form does not matter.  Using cursor keys to move the text cursor 
between delimiters in a running text always causes has more accessibility 
and usability problems, and consequently information processing problems, 
than tabbing (or otherwise moving the focus) from one control to another.
 
>> There are basic accessibility guidelines that no amount of
>> development experience can substitute (although studying usability,
>> as I did, can help).  Many of which must be followed per
>> legislation in some countries.
> 
> This.. has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You are just not seeing how much it has to do with the topic at hand.  
Changing the way people put in data towards one that is *actually* easier 
for them solves, at least, three problems at once, including the one that 
you have been asking about.  Because when structured data is being entered 
in a structured way, you have almost no trouble storing it in a structured 
way.  (BTW, in case you do not know, moving the focus from one input control 
to the next while typing text can be assisted with client-side scripting.)

You should read, for example, <http://www.useit.com/> which contains many 
ideas on how you can make Web sites better usable and therefore, almost in 
passing, more accessible.

>> > When I say it's inconvenient for the end user, it's not something I
>> > make up on the spot to be obnoxious.
>> Nevertheless, your logic is flawed.
> 
> Well, as long as you're merely saying that instead of actually, you 
> know, substantiate that opinion, I have no idea what you expect me 
> to do with it.
> 
> Words are easy :)

This is about as much as I will discuss this here because your *actual* 
problem has nothing to do with PHP, and little to do with Regular 
Expressions.


HTH

PointedEars
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var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
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preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-22 12:21 +0100
  Re: preg_match() oddities and question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-22 11:26 +0000
    Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-22 12:36 +0100
    Re: preg_match() oddities and question Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-11-22 07:22 -0500
  Re: preg_match() oddities and question tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-11-22 11:47 +0000
    Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-22 13:12 +0100
  Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-22 13:30 +0100
    Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-22 13:55 +0100
      Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-22 17:56 +0100
        Re: preg_match() oddities and question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-22 17:30 +0000
          Re: preg_match() oddities and question "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2011-11-22 17:20 -0600
            Re: preg_match() oddities and question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-22 23:59 +0000
            Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-23 01:59 +0100
              Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-23 09:58 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-23 22:02 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-24 08:20 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 12:55 +0000
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-25 09:36 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-24 22:41 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-25 09:26 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-25 15:44 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-25 16:34 +0100
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-25 23:23 +0100
              Re: preg_match() oddities and question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-23 09:35 +0000
        Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-23 09:55 +0100
          Re: preg_match() oddities and question "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2011-11-23 07:53 -0600
            Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-23 19:01 +0100
              Re: preg_match() oddities and question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-23 18:54 +0000
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-23 20:23 +0100
              Re: preg_match() oddities and question "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2011-11-23 12:58 -0600
                Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-24 08:28 +0100
  SOLVED: Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-25 10:32 +0100
    Re: SOLVED: Re: preg_match() oddities and question Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-11-25 18:55 -0500
      Re: SOLVED: Re: preg_match() oddities and question Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-11-26 11:21 +0100

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