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  resource management and constructors question Automn <automn@willow.org> - 2015-02-10 10:58 +0000
    Re: resource management and constructors question Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-10 15:31 +0000
      Re: resource management and constructors question Automn <automn@willow.org> - 2015-02-10 19:34 +0000

#157 — resource management and constructors question

Hello,

I have a bit of experience in Smalltalk and Objective-C but someone told me
something I do not understand :

Why cannot you overload the -new method for construction ? It does not 
operate on classes but on instances AFAIK so I can retain data in it but 
apparently no one wants to have a clean interfaced -new overloaded method ?

I do not use +new as a class method, I want to use -new.

Best Reagrds,
Automn

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#158

For your reference, records indicate that 
Automn <automn@willow.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have a bit of experience in Smalltalk and Objective-C but someone told me
> something I do not understand :
> 
> Why cannot you overload the -new method for construction ? It does not 
> operate on classes but on instances AFAIK so I can retain data in it but 
> apparently no one wants to have a clean interfaced -new overloaded method ?

You cannot overload -new because it doesn’t exist (at least not in the
common Object or NSObject hierarchies).  There is +new and there is -init.
I have no idea what you want a -new method to do, but you’re welcome to
use it.  Be sure to document it extremely well if you share your code,
because it could lead to confusion.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#159

On 2015-02-10, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:
>
> You cannot overload -new because it doesn’t exist (at least not in the
> common Object or NSObject hierarchies).  There is +new and there is -init.
> I have no idea what you want a -new method to do, but you’re welcome to
> use it.  Be sure to document it extremely well if you share your code,
> because it could lead to confusion.
>

OK, I understand, it's the call of the overload that is the problem, not
the interface, nor the implementation.

Thanks,
Automn

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