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what happened to comp.lang.oberon ?

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First post2023-05-24 22:29 -0700
Last post2024-03-01 18:37 -0500
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  what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2023-05-24 22:29 -0700
    Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Chris Burrows <cfbsoftware@gmail.com> - 2023-05-25 22:03 -0700
    Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Paul Attryde <clackmannan@Hotmail.com> - 2023-05-26 07:42 -0400
      Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 16:38 -0800
      Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Brian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net> - 2023-12-30 08:36 -0800
        Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-12-30 11:39 -0500
        Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> - 2023-12-31 01:37 -0600
          Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Brian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net> - 2023-12-31 10:15 -0800
            Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-12-31 13:44 -0500
              Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> - 2024-01-01 13:07 -0500
                Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Brian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net> - 2024-02-14 05:00 -0800
                  Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-14 11:46 -0500
                    Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Brian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net> - 2024-02-14 12:12 -0800
                      Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Manuel Collado <mcollado2011@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 09:56 +0100
                        Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? Bernhard <me@nobody.invalid> - 2024-09-27 09:16 +0200
                      Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-17 14:39 -0500
                    Re: what happened to comp.lang.oberon ? dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2024-03-01 18:37 -0500

#1331 — what happened to comp.lang.oberon ?

Fromrugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com>
Date2023-05-24 22:29 -0700
Subjectwhat happened to comp.lang.oberon ?
Message-ID<725868c8-2d63-4f59-aeca-eaa0a03256cdn@googlegroups.com>
I realize this is a bit of a silly question, but since Modula-2 and Oberon are closely related, I figure I'd ask here.

What happened to news://comp.lang.oberon ??

I think it still exists, but it hasn't shown up (for me, in Google Groups) in ages, and I don't know why.

"Banned content warning
comp.lang.oberon has been identified as containing spam, malware, or other malicious content."

Sounds unlikely. Worse is that there's no one to ask officially, no way to find out for sure. So I keep wondering and wanting to ask *someone*.

Any ideas?

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#1332

FromChris Burrows <cfbsoftware@gmail.com>
Date2023-05-25 22:03 -0700
Message-ID<4691bedb-169c-4b1c-af09-580eb182d06cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1331
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 2:59:30 PM UTC+9:30, rugxulo wrote:
> I realize this is a bit of a silly question, but since Modula-2 and Oberon are closely related, I figure I'd ask here. 
> 
> What happened to news://comp.lang.oberon ?? 
> 
> I think it still exists, but it hasn't shown up (for me, in Google Groups) in ages, and I don't know why. 
> 
> "Banned content warning 
> comp.lang.oberon has been identified as containing spam, malware, or other malicious content." 
> 
> Sounds unlikely. Worse is that there's no one to ask officially, no way to find out for sure. So I keep wondering and wanting to ask *someone*. 
> 
> Any ideas?

See the related posts and ensuing discussions in 2022 on the ETH Oberon Mailing list:

[Oberon] Is anyone here a moderator or admin of comp.lang.oberon?
https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/pipermail/oberon/2022/016270.html

Oberon] Archive of comp.lang.oberon
https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/pipermail/oberon/2022/016472.html

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#1333

FromPaul Attryde <clackmannan@Hotmail.com>
Date2023-05-26 07:42 -0400
Message-ID<u4q5v8$3vd6p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1331
On 2023-05-25 01:29, rugxulo wrote:
> I realize this is a bit of a silly question, but since Modula-2 and Oberon are closely related, I figure I'd ask here.
> 
> What happened to news://comp.lang.oberon ??
> 
> I think it still exists, but it hasn't shown up (for me, in Google Groups) in ages, and I don't know why.
> 

Nothing happened to it, it's still there.
That's what you get for using google instead of a news server.

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#1350

Fromrugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-15 16:38 -0800
Message-ID<4063ea3e-d0a4-4bbf-8b99-df9853798314n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1333
Hi,

On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 6:42:39 AM UTC-5, Paul Attryde wrote:
> On 2023-05-25 01:29, rugxulo wrote: 
> > 
> > What happened to news://comp.lang.oberon ?? 
> > 
> > I think it still exists, but it hasn't shown up (for me, in Google Groups) in ages, and I don't know why. 
> >
> Nothing happened to it, it's still there. 
> That's what you get for using google instead of a news server.

"Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."

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#1352

FromBrian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net>
Date2023-12-30 08:36 -0800
Message-ID<8e2fa176-c06b-48d4-a4b4-fb04b020fd6cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1333
On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 7:42:39 AM UTC-4, Paul Attryde wrote:
> That's what you get for using google instead of a news server.

With google groups ending Usenet access, any recommendations on a real news server to use instead?

Thanks,
Brian

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#1353

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2023-12-30 11:39 -0500
Message-ID<umph44$1b1f5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1352
On 12/30/2023 11:36 AM, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 7:42:39 AM UTC-4, Paul Attryde wrote:
>> That's what you get for using google instead of a news server.
> 
> With google groups ending Usenet access, any recommendations on a real news server to use instead?

Many use Eternal September - see https://www.eternal-september.org/ for
details.

Arne

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#1354

FromSugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>
Date2023-12-31 01:37 -0600
Message-ID<20231231013712.7a5c7bd8@dev>
In reply to#1352
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:36:36 -0800 (PST)
Brian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net> wrote:

> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 7:42:39 AM UTC-4, Paul Attryde wrote:
> > That's what you get for using google instead of a news server.  
> 
> With google groups ending Usenet access, any recommendations on a
> real news server to use instead?


    List of free Usenet servers: <https://sybershock.com/#usenet>.

    Share this link with other soon-to-be google groups refugees.

-- 
    3883@sugar.bug | sybershock.com | talk.politics.crypto

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#1355

FromBrian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net>
Date2023-12-31 10:15 -0800
Message-ID<640826b3-21fa-4a40-8348-31b662dba770n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1354
On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 2:36:10 AM UTC-5, SugarBug wrote:
> List of free Usenet servers: <https://sybershock.com/#usenet>. 
> 
> Share this link with other soon-to-be google groups refugees. 

Thanks!  I will share!  I did get signed up with eternal-september.org, but am still in the process of finding a client application.  I was planning on using slrn, but apparently it does not support the required authentication...

--Brian

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#1356

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2023-12-31 13:44 -0500
Message-ID<umscqa$1qi7i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1355
On 12/31/2023 1:15 PM, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 2:36:10 AM UTC-5, SugarBug wrote:
>> List of free Usenet servers: <https://sybershock.com/#usenet>.

>                                        I did get signed up with
> eternal-september.org, but am still in the process of finding a
> client application.  I was planning on using slrn, but apparently it
> does not support the required authentication...

ThunderBird works with E-S.

Arne

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#1357

FromOrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-01-01 13:07 -0500
Message-ID<umuv0b$29ml0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1356
On 2023-12-31 13:44, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/31/2023 1:15 PM, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 2:36:10 AM UTC-5, SugarBug wrote:
>>> List of free Usenet servers: <https://sybershock.com/#usenet>.
> 
>>                                        I did get signed up with
>> eternal-september.org, but am still in the process of finding a
>> client application.  I was planning on using slrn, but apparently it
>> does not support the required authentication...
> 
> ThunderBird works with E-S.
> 
> Arne

Please consider donations to Eternal September.  Since the Google trash 
spout was closed, they have received over 3000 new subscribers.

OF

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#1361

FromBrian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net>
Date2024-02-14 05:00 -0800
Message-ID<7fe5e8e0-286b-4878-9314-f86146eb369dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1357
Oddly the only comp.lang group I managed to find through Eternal September was comp.lang.go.  Very strange.  Back to Google Groups until the 22nd I guess.  After that I'll have to figure out a new plan...

--Brian

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#1362

FromOrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-02-14 11:46 -0500
Message-ID<uqiqoa$2nnpu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1361
On 2024-02-14 08:00, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
> Oddly the only comp.lang group I managed to find through Eternal September was comp.lang.go.  Very strange.

That is strange.  I subscribe to 10 groups in comp.lang.* via Eternal 
September. What reader are you using?

OF

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#1363

FromBrian Knoblauch <briank@glmotorsports.net>
Date2024-02-14 12:12 -0800
Message-ID<2b83b976-d4b4-4381-98db-30570dbfda6en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1362
On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:46:04 AM UTC-5, OrangeFish wrote:
> On 2024-02-14 08:00, Brian Knoblauch wrote: 
> > Oddly the only comp.lang group I managed to find through Eternal September was comp.lang.go. Very strange.
> That is strange. I subscribe to 10 groups in comp.lang.* via Eternal 
> September. What reader are you using? 
> 
> OF

That's with Thunderbird.

I tested a small handful of clients both GNU/Linux and Windows and that's the only one I could get to connect, but unfortunately I have that oddity of only seeing that one comp.lang group.

What are others using successfully?  Anyone running OpenIndiana?  As a Solaris guy from back in the day I'm wondering if that would include a better client?

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#1364

FromManuel Collado <mcollado2011@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-15 09:56 +0100
Message-ID<uqkjjk$37iqj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1363
El 14/2/24 a las 21:12, Brian Knoblauch escribió:
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:46:04 AM UTC-5, OrangeFish wrote:
>> On 2024-02-14 08:00, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
>>> Oddly the only comp.lang group I managed to find through Eternal September was comp.lang.go. Very strange.
>> That is strange. I subscribe to 10 groups in comp.lang.* via Eternal
>> September. What reader are you using?
>>
>> OF
> 
> That's with Thunderbird.
> 
> I tested a small handful of clients both GNU/Linux and Windows and that's the only one I could get to connect, but unfortunately I have that oddity of only seeing that one comp.lang group.
> 
> What are others using successfully?  Anyone running OpenIndiana?  As a Solaris guy from back in the day I'm wondering if that would include a better client?

I'm subscribed to comp.lang.oberon (and other comp.lang.* groups) via 
Eternal September and Mozilla Thunderbird. There is very very low 
traffic on oberon. Last messages are a couple of them in 2022 and a 
singe message on November 2023.

HTH

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#1367

FromBernhard <me@nobody.invalid>
Date2024-09-27 09:16 +0200
Message-ID<vd5m48$q125$5@solani.org>
In reply to#1364
BTW, a browsable archive of comp.lang.oberon can be found here:

	https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=comp.lang.oberon

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#1365

FromOrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-02-17 14:39 -0500
Message-ID<uqr229$iiap$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1363
On 2024-02-14 15:12, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:46:04 AM UTC-5, OrangeFish wrote:
>> On 2024-02-14 08:00, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
>>> Oddly the only comp.lang group I managed to find through Eternal September was comp.lang.go. Very strange.
>> That is strange. I subscribe to 10 groups in comp.lang.* via Eternal
>> September. What reader are you using?
>>
>> OF
> 
> That's with Thunderbird.
> 
> I tested a small handful of clients both GNU/Linux and Windows and that's the only one I could get to connect, but unfortunately I have that oddity of only seeing that one comp.lang group.
> 
> What are others using successfully?  Anyone running OpenIndiana?  As a Solaris guy from back in the day I'm wondering if that would include a better client?

This is getting really off-topic:  I just built tin-2.6.3 on Solaris 
11.3/Sparc and I have no problem connecting with 
news.eternal-september.org.  I can see comp.lang.oberon.

OF

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#1366

Fromdave_thompson_2@comcast.net
Date2024-03-01 18:37 -0500
Message-ID<glp4uipg845cggms35ubg9lh7v3fblsp81@4ax.com>
In reply to#1362
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:46:01 -0500, OrangeFish
<OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 2024-02-14 08:00, Brian Knoblauch wrote:
> > Oddly the only comp.lang group I managed to find through 
Eternal September was comp.lang.go.  Very strange.
> 
> That is strange.  I subscribe to 10 groups in comp.lang.* via Eternal 
> September. What reader are you using?
> 
[answered as Thunderbird, but in a message with insanely long quoted
lines I can't requote properly; I think that's also a googleism]

Are you sure your username&password are set (correctly)? I've seen
reports e-s directory doesn't work right if you aren't logged-in.

I use e-s via Forte Agent (duh, my headers say so) and get lots of
comp.lang.*.

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