Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.misc > #11836

SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C)

Path csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.misc, comp.lang.c
Subject SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C)
Followup-To comp.lang.misc
Date Thu, 27 Aug 2026 21:30:41 -0300
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Lines 20
Message-ID <87ecfjdr2m.fsf_-_@debian> (permalink)
References <10su8cn$am9i$1@dont-email.me> <10tof8a$b63$1@dont-email.me> <10tp26r$1l93l$21@dont-email.me> <10tpt9j$c3i4$1@dont-email.me> <10tpvqv$ivo$3@reader1.panix.com> <10ttvng$1j579$1@dont-email.me> <10tu082$1irrv$2@kst.eternal-september.org> <10u069d$285sv$1@dont-email.me> <rCOMR.3047$_v1.2327@fx21.iad>
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding 8bit
Injection-Date Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:33:17 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info dont-email.me; logging-data="2032337"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ffLeaK0P3tx5DPrrWezNx"; posting-host="20f15c747cee91003e0b3dab76b5eff8"
User-Agent Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux)
Cancel-Lock sha1:yY3Cd3EcQBZ3GyYUi290oKumEu8= sha1:CycNZcAvnN81afaBBKgDqrcVe1A= sha256:KuU//FGLpU1YxLNXBX0HJ2DmfA3Y7d7DFLREF3iYy7s= sha1:OBRAXpugbTBHZD8DnL+cPOyYb60= sha256:8Rw+2QPrQgqRGca7FhRfbxqEVLISHrprKeLd/J1sjf0=
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.misc:11836 comp.lang.c:401553

Cross-posted to 2 groups.

Followups directed to: comp.lang.misc

Show key headers only | View raw


scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> Those clever people _were_ cranking out suitable systems languages by
> the bucketful. (...), HP-3000 SPL (Systems Programming Language - I
> used SPL in the late 70s)

I’m interested to hear how SPL compared to C and Pascal from your
perspective.  I’ve never talked to anyone who had the chance to use it.
Glancing at
<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/hp/3000/spl/30000-90025_System_Programming_Language_Textbook_197709.pdf#page=124>
it looks pretty similar to them — a bit longer-winded and SHOUTIER than
C, a bit more practical than Pascal, but showing a very strong family
resemblance to both.

One difference that leaps out at me is that, as with VAR parameters in
Pascal or references in C++, dereferencing pointers apparently happens
implicitly — it’s only when you want to reseat the pointer that you need
to use the @ operator.  But possibly I’m guessing wrong, since I haven’t
actually read the textbook.

Kragen

Back to comp.lang.misc | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-10 13:05 +0000
  Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-12 02:28 +0100
    Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-11 18:37 -0700
      Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-12 22:32 +0100
        Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-12 15:28 -0700
          Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-13 02:49 +0200
        Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 23:21 +0000
          Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-13 02:53 +0200
            Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-13 14:15 +0000
              Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-13 12:30 -0700
                Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-13 20:20 +0000
          SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-27 21:30 -0300
            Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-28 04:32 +0000
            Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-28 04:33 +0000
            Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-28 14:14 +0000
              Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-28 15:28 -0300
                Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-28 19:18 +0000
                Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-28 21:13 -0300
                Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 06:14 -0700
                Re: SPL/3000 (was Re: Alternatives to C) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-29 15:19 -0300
    Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-12 02:40 +0000
      Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-12 15:11 +0100
    Re: Alternatives to C (was Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int') Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:59 +0800

csiph-web