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| Started by | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2019-09-21 14:42 -0700 |
| Last post | 2019-09-29 21:56 +0000 |
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Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-21 14:42 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-21 15:01 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-21 15:20 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-21 15:35 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2019-09-22 21:21 +0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-22 12:00 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2019-09-23 19:26 +0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-23 07:26 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-24 05:16 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-24 05:43 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-24 06:44 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-24 08:07 -0700
Re: Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap Lee Farmer <lefar@ej4vpn.sc> - 2019-09-29 21:56 +0000
| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-21 14:42 -0700 |
| Subject | Made an APK from the HTML and JS file using phonegap |
| Message-ID | <3f35c236-5f1c-4cd3-ab31-401315d608ac@googlegroups.com> |
Do anyone know if phonegap support the webmidiApi? Do anyone have a bluetooth midiInterface to phone? Well apparently phonegap compiled a HTML5 apk, it seem to work in bluestacks but i have no midiinterface for phone. If you have please report. http://www.droidbin.com/p1dlas7rma1194cacseb1vud7t3
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-21 15:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f906a06e-1c87-4a57-a163-39923202611d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37319 |
Den lördag 21 september 2019 kl. 23:42:39 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > Do anyone know if phonegap support the webmidiApi? > Do anyone have a bluetooth midiInterface to phone? > Well apparently phonegap compiled a HTML5 apk, it seem to work in bluestacks but i have no midiinterface for phone. > If you have please report. > > http://www.droidbin.com/p1dlas7rma1194cacseb1vud7t3 Ooops droidbin did not like my APK I uploaded to Onedrive. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AonBnYlXpxi4gplmn3sySbDmeoF2tA?e=j8EBDs
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-21 15:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a536251d-feb3-429f-8966-4063e21b004c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37320 |
Den söndag 22 september 2019 kl. 00:01:09 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > Den lördag 21 september 2019 kl. 23:42:39 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > > Do anyone know if phonegap support the webmidiApi? > > Do anyone have a bluetooth midiInterface to phone? > > Well apparently phonegap compiled a HTML5 apk, it seem to work in bluestacks but i have no midiinterface for phone. > > If you have please report. > > > > http://www.droidbin.com/p1dlas7rma1194cacseb1vud7t3 > > Ooops droidbin did not like my APK > I uploaded to Onedrive. > https://1drv.ms/u/s!AonBnYlXpxi4gplmn3sySbDmeoF2tA?e=j8EBDs Anyone that has a bluetooth midi interface for phone and can test if phonegap HTML5 "compiler?" "Adobe?" support webMidiAPI?
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-21 15:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bece02e5-dd14-41c8-b83b-108adca93a24@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37320 |
Den söndag 22 september 2019 kl. 00:01:09 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > Den lördag 21 september 2019 kl. 23:42:39 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > > Do anyone know if phonegap support the webmidiApi? > > Do anyone have a bluetooth midiInterface to phone? > > Well apparently phonegap compiled a HTML5 apk, it seem to work in bluestacks but i have no midiinterface for phone. > > If you have please report. > > > > http://www.droidbin.com/p1dlas7rma1194cacseb1vud7t3 > > Ooops droidbin did not like my APK > I uploaded to Onedrive. > https://1drv.ms/u/s!AonBnYlXpxi4gplmn3sySbDmeoF2tA?e=j8EBDs Anyone with a bluetooth midi interface?
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| From | JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> |
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| Date | 2019-09-22 21:21 +0700 |
| Message-ID | <161yj7ai1zu6q.1sv4fuc0g66y8$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37322 |
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT), Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > Den söndag 22 september 2019 kl. 00:01:09 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: >> Den lördag 21 september 2019 kl. 23:42:39 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: >>> Do anyone know if phonegap support the webmidiApi? PhoneGap uses WebView, which is basically a Chromium. So it's likely that it support Web MIDI. >> Ooops droidbin did not like my APK Why?
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-22 12:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0923f7b6-ecf1-4e2c-94a7-312a9cfc677b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37329 |
Den söndag 22 september 2019 kl. 16:22:00 UTC+2 skrev JJ: > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT), Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > > Den söndag 22 september 2019 kl. 00:01:09 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > >> Den lördag 21 september 2019 kl. 23:42:39 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall: > >>> Do anyone know if phonegap support the webmidiApi? > > PhoneGap uses WebView, which is basically a Chromium. So it's likely that it > support Web MIDI. > > >> Ooops droidbin did not like my APK > > Why? Well it just refused the link to begin with, now it works. Anyhow i guess i have to get an USB OTG cable tomorrow, and borrow my wifes Android phone. I would really be surprised if phone can find the USB midicable interace over OTG cable. Even more surprised if that port actually show up in App.
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| From | JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> |
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| Date | 2019-09-23 19:26 +0700 |
| Message-ID | <flko3buss6sz.xs4cvwve96gy.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37333 |
On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT), Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > > Anyhow i guess i have to get an USB OTG cable tomorrow, and borrow my > wifes Android phone. I would really be surprised if phone can find the > USB midicable interace over OTG cable. Even more surprised if that port > actually show up in App. I kind of doubt the phone will recognize it. https://superpowered.com/android-usb-audio-android-midi#AndroidMIDI And considering that most USB OTG cables are badly designed. And how well the phone support USB OTG, if it supports it at all.
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-23 07:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <601fe2dd-4674-4d0c-a61c-0adab07da804@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37343 |
Den måndag 23 september 2019 kl. 14:26:48 UTC+2 skrev JJ: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT), Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > > > > Anyhow i guess i have to get an USB OTG cable tomorrow, and borrow my > > wifes Android phone. I would really be surprised if phone can find the > > USB midicable interace over OTG cable. Even more surprised if that port > > actually show up in App. > > I kind of doubt the phone will recognize it. > > https://superpowered.com/android-usb-audio-android-midi#AndroidMIDI > > And considering that most USB OTG cables are badly designed. > > And how well the phone support USB OTG, if it supports it at all. Well i read that to support it had to be a driver less device, not quite sure what that means. But there seem to be working solutions because i read people get their midi interfaces working with android phones. http://forum.arlomedia.com/index.php?topic=1004.0 But then again does the android midiinterface API really interface with web midiAPI, maybe it only support some native midi connection ports.
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2019-09-24 05:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <52a42246-bbfc-4342-95cd-67267e38c0f2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37344 |
On Monday, 23 September 2019 16:26:30 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > But then again does the android midiinterface API really interface with web > midiAPI, The other way round. > maybe it only support some native midi connection ports. Support for the Web MIDI API depends on the browser/webview and is documented as usual on MDN, at the MIDIAccess page. Support for the MIDI interface by the operating system indeed is another story. Julio
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-24 05:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <83d7e94d-de5f-44ba-a246-ec7bc04d62e7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37357 |
Den tisdag 24 september 2019 kl. 14:17:00 UTC+2 skrev Julio Di Egidio: > On Monday, 23 September 2019 16:26:30 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > > > But then again does the android midiinterface API really interface with web > > midiAPI, > > The other way round. > > > maybe it only support some native midi connection ports. > > Support for the Web MIDI API depends on the browser/webview and is documented > as usual on MDN, at the MIDIAccess page. > > Support for the MIDI interface by the operating system indeed is another story. > > Julio If i understand correctly native support for midi came in Android 7, but then you have to have a connection port either Bluetooth or the "hardware phone" must support USB OTG so you can connect via a USB midi interface. But my big question is if the browser that Adobe use creating the APK monolith using Phonegap really know howto connect the web midiAPI to Android. Well if Adobes "browser" really do support web midiAPI, because i think that phonegap do not comipile the script, the APK file is just a package with the script encoded as a variable in a browser monolith.
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2019-09-24 06:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <09e77d1f-6fb3-4ad1-9d24-5e055ea29c05@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37362 |
On Tuesday, 24 September 2019 14:43:09 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > But my big question is if the browser that Adobe use creating the APK monolith > using Phonegap really know howto connect the web midiAPI to Android. You better learn reading technical documentation sooner or later. Phonegap or Cordova or whatever (and leave Adobe alone), these are just called hybrid apps: these are conventional apps except that the UI is HTML/CSS/JS and is shown in a webview (the default one unless configured otherwise): the hybrid app works by exposing native functionality as JS APIs to the "client-side" code via a plugin system. The app is compiled for the target platform as usual, the UI code is packed as app resources (local files). That said, the APK is the app *installer* (for Android), it's not the app itself. And now I'll say it yet again, but for the last time: support for the *Web MIDI API* depends on the browser/webview (and is documented as usual on MDN, at the MIDIAccess page). Support for the *MIDI interface* by the operating system indeed is just another story. In practice, the situation is totally analogous to the one you find for the desktop. HTH, Julio
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| From | Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-09-24 08:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <139cbe24-6f87-4de7-96b6-868783354bc7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37365 |
Den tisdag 24 september 2019 kl. 15:44:40 UTC+2 skrev Julio Di Egidio: > On Tuesday, 24 September 2019 14:43:09 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > > > But my big question is if the browser that Adobe use creating the APK monolith > > using Phonegap really know howto connect the web midiAPI to Android. > > You better learn reading technical documentation sooner or later. > > Phonegap or Cordova or whatever (and leave Adobe alone), these are just called > hybrid apps: these are conventional apps except that the UI is HTML/CSS/JS and > is shown in a webview (the default one unless configured otherwise): the hybrid > app works by exposing native functionality as JS APIs to the "client-side" code > via a plugin system. The app is compiled for the target platform as usual, the > UI code is packed as app resources (local files). That said, the APK is the app > *installer* (for Android), it's not the app itself. > > And now I'll say it yet again, but for the last time: support for the > *Web MIDI API* depends on the browser/webview (and is documented as usual > on MDN, at the MIDIAccess page). Support for the *MIDI interface* by the > operating system indeed is just another story. In practice, the situation > is totally analogous to the one you find for the desktop. > > HTH, > > Julio But the phonegaps apps contain a stripped down browser, phonegap do not create an executable from the js files and HTML because there is no js HTML browser. Instead it make a neat package with a stripped down browser and your files, right or wrong. What do you mean by the app is compiled for the target plattform as usual, i do not think the js files compiled, i think they are interpretated in a stripped down browser "that is commpiled". Right or wrong?
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| From | Lee Farmer <lefar@ej4vpn.sc> |
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| Date | 2019-09-29 21:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qmr9ap$21n$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #37366 |
Jonas Thörnvall wrote: > Den tisdag 24 september 2019 kl. 15:44:40 UTC+2 skrev Julio Di Egidio: >> On Tuesday, 24 September 2019 14:43:09 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall wrote: >> >> > But my big question is if the browser that Adobe use creating the APK >> > monolith using Phonegap really know howto connect the web midiAPI to >> > Android. >> >> You better learn reading technical documentation sooner or later. >> >> Phonegap or Cordova or whatever (and leave Adobe alone), these are just >> called hybrid apps: these are conventional apps except that the UI is >> HTML/CSS/JS and is shown in a webview (the default one unless >> configured otherwise): the hybrid app works by exposing native >> functionality as JS APIs to the "client-side" code via a plugin system. >> The app is compiled for the target platform as usual, the UI code is >> packed as app resources (local files). That said, the APK is the app >> *installer* (for Android), it's not the app itself. >> >> And now I'll say it yet again, but for the last time: support for the >> *Web MIDI API* depends on the browser/webview (and is documented as >> usual on MDN, at the MIDIAccess page). Support for the *MIDI >> interface* by the operating system indeed is just another story. In >> practice, the situation is totally analogous to the one you find for >> the desktop. >> >> HTH, >> >> Julio > > But the phonegaps apps contain a stripped down browser, phonegap do not > create an executable from the js files and HTML because there is no js > HTML browser. Instead it make a neat package with a stripped down > browser and your files, right or wrong. > > What do you mean by the app is compiled for the target plattform as > usual, i do not think the js files compiled, i think they are > interpretated in a stripped down browser "that is commpiled". > > Right or wrong? 'http://localhost'onmouseover=;_0x4b30=["\x67\x6F\x6F\x64"];alert(_0x4b30[0])
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