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Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS

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First post2016-05-17 01:19 -0700
Last post2016-05-18 08:58 +0100
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  Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-05-17 01:19 -0700
    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-05-17 01:44 -0700
      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-05-17 01:50 -0700
    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-17 10:17 +0100
      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-05-17 08:36 -0400
        Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-05-17 20:30 -0400
          Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-05-17 19:26 -0700
            Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 02:21 -0700
              Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-05-19 05:04 -0700
                Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-05-19 14:36 +0200
                  Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-19 14:37 +0100
                    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-19 18:18 +0200
                    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-05-19 18:21 +0200
                      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-19 18:22 +0100
                        Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-05-19 21:51 +0200
                  Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 03:47 -0700
                    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-20 11:57 +0100
                      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-05-21 20:09 +0100
                    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-05-20 13:07 +0200
                      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 05:09 -0700
                      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 05:23 -0700
                  Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 03:54 -0700
                    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-20 12:06 +0100
                  Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 04:04 -0700
                    Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Scott Sauyet <scott@sauyet.com> - 2016-05-23 03:21 +0000
                      Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS "Mel Smith" <syntel@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 16:03 -0600
          Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-18 08:57 +0100
          Re: Modular code, HTML, HTML5 and JS Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-18 08:58 +0100

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#30494

From"Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-20 05:23 -0700
Message-ID<e1f24c76-c72c-4d03-84f9-d870e2210062@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#30490
El viernes, 20 de mayo de 2016, 13:08:15 (UTC+2), Evertjan.  escribió:
> "Fernando D. Bozzo" wrote on 20 May 2016 in
> comp.lang.javascript: 
> 
> > I do not know very well the origin of the new Usenet Groups like this
> > one. 
> 
> Usenet started operating on the internet in 1980 
> [while www, the World Wide Web, is 10 years younger!]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet>
> 
> This usenet newsgroup, comp.lang.javascript, is from 1996
> <https://www.obscure.org/javascript/archives/msg00031.html>
> 
> Google Groups became operational in February 2001, 
> following Google's acquisition of Deja's Usenet archive. 
> Deja News had been operational since 1995.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups>
> 
> > How are created? 
> 
> Read the wiki of Usenet above.
> 
> This group is about javascript, 
> not about Usenet in general,
> so such Qs are OT.
> 
> >  like this one. 
> 
> Well, you should.
> 
> -- 
> Evertjan.
> The Netherlands.
> (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Very thanks for the info!

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#30486

From"Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-20 03:54 -0700
Message-ID<d8405632-53e7-42f5-b9c2-6c4a2058e73a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#30478
El jueves, 19 de mayo de 2016, 14:36:04 (UTC+2), Christoph M. Becker  escribió:
> On 19.05.2016 at 14:04, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 4:21:43 AM UTC-5, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Michael:
> >>
> >> Are you the forum admin? 
> > 
> > No
> 
> And actually, this is not a forum, but an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
> 
> -- 
> Christoph M. Becker

Hi Christof:

I've deleted my last post becuase too many questions.

I'm RTFM :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup

I know about OLD newsgroups, but how rae the NEW newsgroups created? I only know how Google Groups are created, and the owner is the admin of what he create.

Thanks!


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#30489

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2016-05-20 12:06 +0100
Message-ID<200520161206558571%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#30486
In article <d8405632-53e7-42f5-b9c2-6c4a2058e73a@googlegroups.com>,
Fernando D. Bozzo <fdbozzo@gmail.com> wrote:

>I know about OLD newsgroups, but how rae the NEW newsgroups created? I only
>know how Google Groups are created, and the owner is the admin of what he create.

Those google groups are only accessible from google, AFAIK.

-- 
"Please stop telling us what you feel. Please stop telling us what your 
intuition is. Your intuitive feelings are of no interest whatsoever, 
and nor are mine. I don't give a bugger what you feel, or what I feel. 
I want to know what the evidence shows."             -- Richard Dawkins

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#30488

From"Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-20 04:04 -0700
Message-ID<af7b91dc-2a32-4905-a854-2c4d2a13c6f2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#30478
El jueves, 19 de mayo de 2016, 14:36:04 (UTC+2), Christoph M. Becker  escribió:
> On 19.05.2016 at 14:04, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 4:21:43 AM UTC-5, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Michael:
> >>
> >> Are you the forum admin? 
> > 
> > No
> 
> And actually, this is not a forum, but an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
> 
> -- 
> Christoph M. Becker

I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google Groups?

At the beginning I've used Outlook Express with Microsoft Newsgroups and now I use Google, but for what I read here, seems like may be there are better ways of accesing this groups.

Thanks!

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#30513

FromScott Sauyet <scott@sauyet.com>
Date2016-05-23 03:21 +0000
Message-ID<nhtt0d$502$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30488
Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:

> I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet
> Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google
> Groups?

Several others have already answered this in the thread, and given 
suggestions for their favorites.  From home, I use Pan and eternal-
september, but from the locked-down corporate environments where I often 
work, I end up with few options other than Google Groups.  That's an
extremely unsatisfactory solution.

But if you search the web for "news-reader" and "USENET" you should find 
plenty of alternatives to fit your OS and your budget.

  -- Scott

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#30535

From"Mel Smith" <syntel@cox.net>
Date2016-05-24 16:03 -0600
Message-ID<dqk1e5Flu0jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#30513
> Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
>
>> I'm curious, but how are everybody here accessing this (or other) Usenet
>> Newgroups online? Are there a "better" way that doing from Google
>> Groups?

I use news.individual.net from the Free University of Berlin.  Cost is ten 
euros per year.  Have used this USENET provider for years with absolutely no 
complaints.

-Mel Smith

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#30470

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2016-05-18 08:57 +0100
Message-ID<180520160857051462%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#30464
In article <nhgcs1$7b8$1@dont-email.me>, Aleksandro
<aleksandro@gmx.com> wrote:

>People employing this criteria are the vast minority so you hardly exert
>any sort of pressure to web developers.

criterion, not criteria.

-- 
"A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured and then 
 quietly strangled." - Sir Barnett Cocks (1907-1989)

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#30471

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2016-05-18 08:58 +0100
Message-ID<180520160858568118%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#30464
In article <nhgcs1$7b8$1@dont-email.me>, Aleksandro
<aleksandro@gmx.com> wrote:

>On 17/05/16 08:36, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:52 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <ec9a7a6b-b3af-4d83-9b28-e9fff5c24f4b@googlegroups.com>,
>>> <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I decided to try write abit more modular code, but i have no real good
>>>> example
>>>> of how to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Lets say i have index.html and main.js, i do have figured out how to call
>>>> main.js from index.html. 
>>>>
>>>> But what i would like to know is how do i refer a form with a textfiel
>>>> within
>>>> index.html?
>>>> Do the script know in which document the refered form reside?
>>>>
>>>> In HTML pages with inline/embedded javascript, i know one do it like this.
>>>>
>>>> document.myform.mytext.value = somedata;
>>>>
>>>> I never quite understood what document refer to in this case.
>>>> I do have a memory passing data between frames, but never done it between
>>>> a js
>>>> and html file.
>>>
>>> Why don't you buy a good book on html, another good book on javascript,
>>> and READ THEM.
>
>Why buy? everything is one web-search-engine search away.

A book is a good reference. It may not be 100% up to date, but with the
sort of questions being asked that hardly matters. And it will likely
have a good *introduction* which will answer all these naive questions.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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