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  String to Base76 dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 22:24 -0400
    Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-07 08:15 +0200
      Re: String to Base76 dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:12 -0400
        Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 19:20 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 13:23 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:17 +0200
              Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 09:02 +0200
                Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 11:53 +0200
                  Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 12:14 +0200
                    Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 12:28 +0200
                      Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 17:27 +0200
                        Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 18:19 +0200
                          Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 19:08 +0200
                        Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 10:48 -0700
                          Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-09 22:06 +0200
                            Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 14:18 -0700
              Re: String to Base76 John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-07-08 16:03 +0100
          Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 10:48 -0700
            Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 13:58 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 21:04 +0200
              Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 13:11 -0700
                Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 23:38 +0200
                  Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 10:50 -0700
                    Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-09 22:22 +0200
                      Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 14:24 -0700
                        Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-10 09:16 +0200
        Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:14 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 20:38 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 03:27 +0200
    Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 12:30 +0200
      Re: String to Base76 dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:16 -0400
        Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 19:26 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 13:54 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 21:17 +0200
              Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 16:57 -0400
                Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 00:17 +0200
                Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:30 +0200
                  Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 20:43 -0400
                    Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 03:17 +0200
                      Re: String to Base76 Wesley Navaille <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 22:01 -0400
                        Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 12:05 +0200
                          Re: String to Base76 Wesley Navaille <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 13:50 -0400
                            Re: String to Base76 Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 19:05 -0700
                              Re: String to Base76 Wesley Navaille <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 22:17 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:22 +0200
    Re: String to Base76 wolfgang zeidler <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-07 20:02 +0200
      Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 14:08 -0400
        Re: String to Base76 "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-07-07 12:01 -0700
      Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 13:05 -0700
        Re: String to Base76 "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-07-07 13:24 -0700
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 17:10 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-07-07 14:53 -0700
        Re: String to Base76 wolfgang zeidler <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-07 23:46 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 15:21 -0700

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#28335

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 21:04:51 +0200, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
>comp.lang.javascript:
>
>>>Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
>>>Do you need obligations to do anything?
>> 
>>      What is decent about it?  Is "Evertjan." your real name?  I
>> suspect that you have at least two strung together. 
>
>You are free to suspect whatever you like.
>
>> I really do not think that it matters 
>> as long as the person is consistent (no
>> nym-shifting) and the name is not rude.
>
>Would't "decent" mean "not-rude"?

     There are similar but not identical meanings.  The opposite of
"rude" is "polite".

>> Sincerely,
>
>I hope so, but I think it is just a fraze to you.

     Which is rather rude of you.  It is not, however, indecent.

>Gene, you are missing the point.
>
>"Real" does not mean "legal",
>but what is used in real life,
>perhaps real == not virtual,
>but I do not mean that.
>
>"Real" here for me, 
>and perhaps for Thomas too,
>just means not absent, hidden or secret.

     I do not separate that part of my life on the Net from that part
not on the Net.  Both are equally real.

     Separating the two into real and not real allows some to be very
rude on the Net, justified with that on the Net is supposedly not
real.  I do not follow that deficient philosohpy.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#28339

Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>>Would't "decent" mean "not-rude"?
> 
>      There are similar but not identical meanings.  The opposite of
> "rude" is "polite".

I was not talking about two way equality,
Just explaining the "real-name" part.

> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>
>>I hope so, but I think it is just a fraze to you.
> 
>      Which is rather rude of you.

It is not. 
I am quite sure your "Sincerely" 
as you indiscriminately use in this group,
is not ment to convey your sincerity
in the matter at hand,
but is just a by-product of your signature habit.
The latter I applaud, btw.

> It is not, however, indecent.

Well, that must mean you declare it decent.
So thank you for calling my perceived rudeness decent.

btw, Gene, I enjoy crossing swords with you again,
even on this thread of string-theory.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
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#28374

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 23:38:00 +0200, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
>comp.lang.javascript:
>
>>>Would't "decent" mean "not-rude"?
>> 
>>      There are similar but not identical meanings.  The opposite of
>> "rude" is "polite".
>
>I was not talking about two way equality,
>Just explaining the "real-name" part.

>>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>I hope so, but I think it is just a fraze to you.
>> 
>>      Which is rather rude of you.
>
>It is not. 
>I am quite sure your "Sincerely" 
>as you indiscriminately use in this group,
>is not ment to convey your sincerity
>in the matter at hand,
>but is just a by-product of your signature habit.
>The latter I applaud, btw.

     It is not simply a phrase to me, and to impute otherwise is rude.

>> It is not, however, indecent.
>
>Well, that must mean you declare it decent.
>So thank you for calling my perceived rudeness decent.

     No, it does not.  Something can be in the middle of a range.

>btw, Gene, I enjoy crossing swords with you again,
>even on this thread of string-theory.

     I would rather not, but when you get rude, I think it necessary
to swat it down.  I like your technical contributions.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#28377

Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 09 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>>> It is not, however, indecent.
>>
>>Well, that must mean you declare it decent.
>>So thank you for calling my perceived rudeness decent.
> 
>      No, it does not. 

What does not?

> Something can be in the middle of a range.

Indeed, something could, 
however, in an analog world, 
this would be extremely seldom event.

In a decent integer digital world,
it would be impossible in half of the cases.

>>btw, Gene, I enjoy crossing swords with you again,
>>even on this thread of string-theory.
> 
> I would rather not, 

You would rather not what? 
.. crossing swords with me?
Why not? I enjoy it. 

It would not mean I pull the strings, only in theory perhaps.

> but when you get rude, 

In your opinion.

> I think it necessary to swat it down.

It seems you don't do a good job swatting.

What is so bad about being rude?
I was not, but don't mind to be. 

Rudeness does not prevent friendlynees, 
listen here: <https://youtu.be/P84tN0z4jqM>

> I like your technical contributions.

Thank you my friend.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#28379

On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 22:22:35 +0200, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 09 Jul 2015 in 
>comp.lang.javascript:
>
>>>> It is not, however, indecent.
>>>
>>>Well, that must mean you declare it decent.
>>>So thank you for calling my perceived rudeness decent.
>> 
>>      No, it does not. 
>
>What does not?
>
>> Something can be in the middle of a range.
>
>Indeed, something could, 
>however, in an analog world, 
>this would be extremely seldom event.

     Actually, it is rather common.  A leaf can be fully healthy or
total withered away or something in between.

>In a decent integer digital world,
>it would be impossible in half of the cases.
>
>>>btw, Gene, I enjoy crossing swords with you again,
>>>even on this thread of string-theory.
>> 
>> I would rather not, 
>
>You would rather not what? 
>.. crossing swords with me?
>Why not? I enjoy it. 

     I like discussions.  I can enjoy a good argument, but I do not
look for them.

>It would not mean I pull the strings, only in theory perhaps.
>
>> but when you get rude, 
>
>In your opinion.
>
>> I think it necessary to swat it down.
>
>It seems you don't do a good job swatting.

     Too much is rude.  <BEG>  I tolerate a certain amount, because I
do not want to err on the side of shutting people up; I would rather
the situation be looser.  But there are limits.

>What is so bad about being rude?
>I was not, but don't mind to be. 

     It is abrasive and often, very counterproductive.

>Rudeness does not prevent friendlynees, 
>listen here: <https://youtu.be/P84tN0z4jqM>

     I know rudeness does not prevent friendliness, but it can dilute
it.  Rudeness can be effective to the degree that you already have a
non-rude relationship, but it does trade off previous goodwill for the
short term.

>> I like your technical contributions.

     Most recently you correcting me on USENET's start.

>Thank you my friend.

     You are welcome.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#28380

Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 09 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>>> Something can be in the middle of a range.

"be"?

>> Indeed, something could, 
>> however, in an analog world, 
>> this would be extremely seldom event.
> 
> Actually, it is rather common.  A leaf can be fully healthy or
> total withered away or something in between.

The middle is the middle, 
not just everywhere between the top and the bottom.

To measure the exact moment a leaf is just halfway
is impossible, and will be impossible for a long time.
Perhaps there are even multiple halfway-crossings 
still totalling in time to zero event time.

However, a leaf is part of a tree snd gives important parts of it back to 
the tree when no longer needed as an energy-convertor in winter. I would not 
call that unhealty.

Like a skin-cell on your finger-tip dies and forms the important upper-skin
is not "less healthy" as its most[?] important job is to be this upperskin.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#28343

dddudeman wrote:

> On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> dddudeman wrote:
>>> Would I be best off using the base64 module and modifying that or making
>>> mine implementation in js?
>> Yes.
> what

<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
 
>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.

I *cross*posted to it *with Followup-To* comp.lang.javascript, so that the 
posting would *also* reach the newsgroup you crossposted to, in case it 
would be carried.

Yes, alt.comp.lang.javascript existed on the news server that *I* am using 
at the time of posting, which – I am rather sure you are not aware of it – 
is the reason I could post to it (on *that* news server one cannot post to 
newsgroups that it does not carry).

Part of the reason is that, compared to the Big 8, alt.ALL is anarchy: 
anyone can send a “newgroup” or “rmgroup” control message at any time, and 
nobody is controlling this.  Therefore, you should avoid crossposting to 
both the Big 8 and alt.ALL.

>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
> Why would I post under my real name?

Because it is polite, and because I cannot take you seriously anymore if you 
don’t.  The reason for the former should be obvious; part of the reason for 
the latter is that I have seen too many 'nym-shifting trolls in my now 15 
years of Usenet participation.

HTH

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#28351

On 7/7/2015 18:14, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> dddudeman wrote:
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> dddudeman wrote:
>>>> Would I be best off using the base64 module and modifying that or making
>>>> mine implementation in js?
>>> Yes.
>> what
>
> <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
>
>>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
>> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.
>
> I *cross*posted to it *with Followup-To* comp.lang.javascript, so that the
> posting would *also* reach the newsgroup you crossposted to, in case it
> would be carried.
<snip>

I know that you cross posted, I didn't mean to say that you were lying 
or anything. I was just saying that that post also showed up on it, so 
the group does exist, despite being beyond dead.


> Part of the reason is that, compared to the Big 8, alt.ALL is anarchy:
> anyone can send a “newgroup” or “rmgroup” control message at any time, and
> nobody is controlling this.  Therefore, you should avoid crossposting to
> both the Big 8 and alt.ALL.

I apologize for cross posting to alt.ALL, in the future (if I ever post 
again) I'll make sure not to.

>>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
>> Why would I post under my real name?
>
> Because it is polite, and because I cannot take you seriously anymore if you
> don’t.  The reason for the former should be obvious; part of the reason for
> the latter is that I have seen too many 'nym-shifting trolls in my now 15
> years of Usenet participation.
>
> HTH

I was hesitant to use my full name at all (whether this is the internet 
or not) because it is easy to find my entire family through it and all 
of our addresses, and I feared that trolls/spambots would abuse that. I 
used dddudeman because nobody else uses that name that I've seen. Is 
Wesley sufficient or should I use my full name. Pardon my inability to 
properly use Usenet.

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#28354

Wesley wrote:

> I was hesitant to use my full name at all (whether this is the internet
> or not) because it is easy to find my entire family through it and all
> of our addresses, and I feared that trolls/spambots would abuse that.
> I used dddudeman because nobody else uses that name that I've seen. Is
> Wesley sufficient or should I use my full name. Pardon my inability to
> properly use Usenet.

No, I do not pardon your continuing to play stupid.  Your family, I am 
supposed to believe that, really?  And as you are also address-munging
now, in violation of the AUP of your Usenet provider, I am more and more 
convinced that you have been trolling us all along.

*PLONK*

F'up2 poster

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#28315

dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

[..]
> then that string of numbers to base76 using a character 
> set that I made up. I think I'm going to use 
> "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+=/\><^-_%
> $[]*" but I have no idea if that's actually what's used in that base.

Methinks you can use whatever you like.

You can also use accented letters 
or Greek, Hebrew or Cyrillic letters,
using a 16bit characterset.

Why should "A" stand for zero and "0" for something else?

Customary is to start the conversion-string with the ordinary numbers,
and then the capitals. 

> Would I be best off using the base64 module 

What is "the" base64 module?

> and modifying that or making
> mine implementation in js?

Building your own gives far more satisfaction,
increases yous skill for other programming,
and makes the discussion here more fun. 

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#28322

On 7/7/2015 06:30, Evertjan. wrote:
> dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
>
> [..]
>> then that string of numbers to base76 using a character
>> set that I made up. I think I'm going to use
>> "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+=/\><^-_%
>> $[]*" but I have no idea if that's actually what's used in that base.
>
> Methinks you can use whatever you like.
>
> You can also use accented letters
> or Greek, Hebrew or Cyrillic letters,
> using a 16bit characterset.
>
> Why should "A" stand for zero and "0" for something else?
>
> Customary is to start the conversion-string with the ordinary numbers,
> and then the capitals.
That string is just the string used for typical base64 conversions with 
\><^-_%$[]* added. Maybe I should use other letters to avoid having to 
escape characters and things like that.
>> Would I be best off using the base64 module
>
> What is "the" base64 module?
https://www.npmjs.com/package/base64
>> and modifying that or making
>> mine implementation in js?
>
> Building your own gives far more satisfaction,
> increases yous skill for other programming,
> and makes the discussion here more fun.
>
I'll try to implement it myself, thanks.

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#28325

dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>> Customary is to start the conversion-string with the ordinary numbers,
>> and then the capitals.
> That string is just the string used for typical base64 conversions with 
> \><^-_%$[]* added. Maybe I should use other letters to avoid having to 
> escape characters and things like that.

Well it is not, 
a base-conversion string defines the characters used in order, 
meseems .

>>> Would I be best off using the base64 module
>>
>> What is "the" base64 module?
> https://www.npmjs.com/package/base64

Why is that "the" base64 module?

>>> and modifying that or making
>>> mine implementation in js?
>>
>> Building your own gives far more satisfaction,
>> increases yous skill for other programming,
>> and makes the discussion here more fun.
>>
> I'll try to implement it myself, thanks.

Yes, dude!

After the first try, 
it might be advisable to peek into what others did,
because then you can appriciate or disapprove with them more.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
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#28327

On 7/7/2015 13:26, Evertjan. wrote:
> dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
>
>>> Customary is to start the conversion-string with the ordinary numbers,
>>> and then the capitals.
>> That string is just the string used for typical base64 conversions with
>> \><^-_%$[]* added. Maybe I should use other letters to avoid having to
>> escape characters and things like that.
>
> Well it is not,
> a base-conversion string defines the characters used in order,
> meseems .
>
>>>> Would I be best off using the base64 module
>>>
>>> What is "the" base64 module?
>> https://www.npmjs.com/package/base64
>
> Why is that "the" base64 module?

I guess I just called it that since it is the one simply titled "base64" 
so I thought that it was the "one to use" or whatever.

>>>> and modifying that or making
>>>> mine implementation in js?
>>>
>>> Building your own gives far more satisfaction,
>>> increases yous skill for other programming,
>>> and makes the discussion here more fun.
>>>
>> I'll try to implement it myself, thanks.
>
> Yes, dude!
>
> After the first try,
> it might be advisable to peek into what others did,
> because then you can appriciate or disapprove with them more.
>

The more I read about it the more complicated it seems. Oh boy.

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#28333

Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>> After the first try,
>> it might be advisable to peek into what others did,
>> because then you can appriciate or disapprove with them more.
>>
> 
> The more I read about it the more complicated it seems. Oh boy.

I don't think it is [complicated],
as long as you just use it for 
number-storage and input/output as a string,
just like is done in decimal and hexadecimal.

Javascript internal computation does not use decimal,
but binary floating point. [even for integers]

So you would need to program only two functions:

from76() and to76()

a multiplicaton would be:

var a = '23QWds&[]';
var b = '[]]]99jJj';

var result = to76( from76(a) * from76(b) );

alert( 'a * b = ' + result );

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Evertjan.
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#28337

On 7/7/2015 15:17, Evertjan. wrote:
> Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
>
>>> After the first try,
>>> it might be advisable to peek into what others did,
>>> because then you can appriciate or disapprove with them more.
>>>
>>
>> The more I read about it the more complicated it seems. Oh boy.
>
> I don't think it is [complicated],
> as long as you just use it for
> number-storage and input/output as a string,
> just like is done in decimal and hexadecimal.
>
> Javascript internal computation does not use decimal,
> but binary floating point. [even for integers]
>
> So you would need to program only two functions:
>
> from76() and to76()
>
> a multiplicaton would be:
>
> var a = '23QWds&[]';
> var b = '[]]]99jJj';
>
> var result = to76( from76(a) * from76(b) );
>
> alert( 'a * b = ' + result );
>

I was more thinking of using it as a basic text encryption. Not for 
security, but for privacy from just stumbling upon the text. Instead you 
would have to decrypt the string using the bot. I've used it in the past 
with base64, but like I said, we want to be special snowflakes.

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#28342

Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>> a multiplicaton would be:
>>
>> var a = '23QWds&[]';
>> var b = '[]]]99jJj';
>>
>> var result = to76( from76(a) * from76(b) );
>>
>> alert( 'a * b = ' + result );
>>
> 
> I was more thinking of using it as a basic text encryption. Not for 
> security, but for privacy from just stumbling upon the text. Instead you 
> would have to decrypt the string using the bot. I've used it in the past 
> with base64, but like I said, we want to be special snowflakes.

Then the already suggested a form of ROT76 would be a far better choice.

You could use this ROT13 as an example:

function rot13(s) {
  var x1 = 'ABCDEFGHIJKLM',
      x2 = 'NOPQRSTUVWXYZ',
      x = x1 + x2 + (x1 + x2).toLowerCase(),
      y = x2 + x1 + (x2 + x1).toLowerCase();
  return s.replace(
     /[A-Z]/ig, 
     function(c) {return x.charAt(y.indexOf(c));
  });
};

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#28347

Wesley wrote:
^^^^^^
Please fix.

> I was more thinking of using it as a basic text encryption. Not for
> security, but for privacy from just stumbling upon the text. Instead you
> would have to decrypt the string using the bot. I've used it in the past
> with base64, but like I said, we want to be special snowflakes.

Base64 and related *encoding* schemes are _not_ ciphers; it is _not_ text 
*encryption*.  They have primarily been developed to *encode* ASCII control 
codes in a safe way for transmission.

Which texts do you think you would be (*not*) encrypting with this?

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#28352

On 7/7/2015 18:30, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Wesley wrote:
> ^^^^^^
> Please fix.
>

What is wrong with that name? As I've said before I am hesitant to use 
my full name, because of spambots/trolls.

>> I was more thinking of using it as a basic text encryption. Not for
>> security, but for privacy from just stumbling upon the text. Instead you
>> would have to decrypt the string using the bot. I've used it in the past
>> with base64, but like I said, we want to be special snowflakes.
>
> Base64 and related *encoding* schemes are _not_ ciphers; it is _not_ text
> *encryption*.  They have primarily been developed to *encode* ASCII control
> codes in a safe way for transmission.
>
> Which texts do you think you would be (*not*) encrypting with this?
>

Encode, not encrypt. I always get those wrong, I'm sorry for that.  I 
meant to encode discussions on bulletin boards mainly to keep other 
people from being able to easily understand some things. I regret 
posting this thread.

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#28353

Wesley wrote:

> On 7/7/2015 18:30, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Wesley wrote:
>> ^^^^^^
>> Please fix.
> 
> What is wrong with that name?

It is incomplete, Mr. Crusher.

> As I've said before I am hesitant to use my full name,

No, you said before you were hesitant to use your *real* name.  And suddenly 
it was so easy for you.  What does that tell you?

> because of spambots/trolls.

The spambots argument has been refuted just yesterday.  As for trolls, utter 
nonsense.  Trolls could not care less about your real name; all they want is 
to provoke you and jerk off of it.  You might be afraid of _stalkers_ IRL, 
but then if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
 
>>> I was more thinking of using it as a basic text encryption. Not for
>>> security, but for privacy from just stumbling upon the text. Instead you
>>> would have to decrypt the string using the bot. I've used it in the past
>>> with base64, but like I said, we want to be special snowflakes.
>> Base64 and related *encoding* schemes are _not_ ciphers; it is _not_ text
>> *encryption*.  They have primarily been developed to *encode* ASCII
>> control codes in a safe way for transmission.
>>
>> Which texts do you think you would be (*not*) encrypting with this?
> 
> Encode, not encrypt.

As I told you.  There is a “not” in that sentence, intentionally…

> […]  I meant to encode discussions on bulletin boards mainly to keep other
> people from being able to easily understand some things.

One cannot help you if you do not state your purpose clearly.  This is not a 
guessing game.  RTFFAQ and stop wasting our time.

> I regret posting this thread.

You should regret other things instead.

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#28355

On 7/7/2015 21:17, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
> It is incomplete, Mr. Crusher.
>

Are you happy now? I wasn't hesitant to put my last name because I was 
trolling, I only didn't want to put it so it wasn't so easy to find
As I said before, my entire family's names:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=12711572

And my father's fucking address and phone number:
http://www.peoplebyname.com/people/Navaille/Jeffrey

But here you go, I'll just post it all now and save anybody the work.

>> As I've said before I am hesitant to use my full name,
>
> No, you said before you were hesitant to use your *real* name.  And suddenly
> it was so easy for you.  What does that tell you?
>

My "real" name I meant full name. As you said I was fine with putting my 
first name, but that wasn't enough for you. Here is is, I'll keep it 
like this so anybody will be able to know exactly who I am.

>> because of spambots/trolls.
>
> The spambots argument has been refuted just yesterday.  As for trolls, utter
> nonsense.  Trolls could not care less about your real name; all they want is
> to provoke you and jerk off of it.  You might be afraid of _stalkers_ IRL,
> but then if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
>

I've been doxed before, whether it was by your definition of "troll" 
doesn't really matter. It's not very fun having shit show up at your 
house for a week. That's why I didn't want to put my full name. You knew 
what I meant.

[snip]
>> […]  I meant to encode discussions on bulletin boards mainly to keep other
>> people from being able to easily understand some things.
>
> One cannot help you if you do not state your purpose clearly.  This is not a
> guessing game.  RTFFAQ and stop wasting our time.
>

It's pretty simple to figure out what I was meaning to encode. I planned 
to just encode messages on a bulletin board (which I've already 
mentioned) that I assist in managing so some casual viewers wouldn't be 
able to view some of them as easily(which I've already mentioned). It 
wasn't even my idea, somebody requested that I try to add the ability to 
do that on my IRC bot. I thought it was an interesting idea but I wasn't 
really sure how to go about doing it. That's why I posted here. Not to 
waste your time or anything like that.

>> I regret posting this thread.
>
> You should regret other things instead.
>

Posting under the wrong name than you wanted just to feed your autism? 
Yeah, I regret that too.

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