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  Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-01 16:49 +0800
    Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2015-04-01 19:19 +0700
      Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-01 20:35 +0800
        Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 14:50 +0000
          Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 09:35 -0700
            Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 06:29 +0800
          Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 06:28 +0800
            Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2015-04-02 01:04 +0200
        Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 10:53 +1100
          Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 09:18 +0800
            Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 15:12 +1100
          Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 10:25 +0800
            Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 18:44 +1100
    Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-04-01 17:59 -0700
      Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 10:20 +0800
        Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 20:27 +0800
          Re: Forced to browser-sniff Safari version Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:06 +0800
            Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:55 +0800
              Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-04-02 16:28 -0700
                Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-03 07:38 +0800
                  Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-03 07:56 +0800
                    Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2015-04-04 07:47 +0100
                      Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-05 08:12 +0800
                        Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Ed Jay <edMbj@aes-intl.com> - 2015-04-05 08:59 -0700
                          Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-06 06:56 +0800
                  Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-03 10:02 +0800
                Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-03 08:14 +0800
              Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-04-04 12:49 -0400
                Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-05 08:18 +0800

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#27180 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

Mate, I can't even get the main menu up on Opera anymore "File Tools 
Help etc" so I am clearly an idiot :-(

I'm beginning to think it's an enable voice button but stuffed if I know 
where Opera have put it.

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#27183 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On 03/04/2015 00:56, Richard Maher wrote:
> I'm beginning to think it's an enable voice button but stuffed if I know
> where Opera have put it.

I stopped using Opera a couple of years ago (I forgot why, the following 
day, so don't ask)
I seem to recall that there was a mechanism where you could see/edit all 
of the settings in one place. What's more, it was searchable.

You'd have to ask in an Opera group.

-- 
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/

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#27193 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On 4/4/2015 2:47 PM, Swifty wrote:
>
> I stopped using Opera a couple of years ago (I forgot why, the following
> day, so don't ask)
> I seem to recall that there was a mechanism where you could see/edit all
> of the settings in one place. What's more, it was searchable.
>
> You'd have to ask in an Opera group.
>

I did and since about Opera 17 they've been gone :-(

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#27195 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 08:12:19 +0800, Richard Maher
<maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/4/2015 2:47 PM, Swifty wrote:
>>
>> I stopped using Opera a couple of years ago (I forgot why, the following
>> day, so don't ask)
>> I seem to recall that there was a mechanism where you could see/edit all
>> of the settings in one place. What's more, it was searchable.
>>
>> You'd have to ask in an Opera group.
>>
>
>I did and since about Opera 17 they've been gone :-(

Opera 12 and below: /Help/Preferences Editor.
-- 
Ed Jay (remove 'M' to respond by email)

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#27201 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On 4/5/2015 11:59 PM, Ed Jay wrote:
>> I did and since about Opera 17 they've been gone :-(
>
> Opera 12 and below: /Help/Preferences Editor.
>

NO you could still turn it on in 12. I have 12.17 in front of me with 
the menu up.

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#27182 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On 4/3/2015 7:38 AM, Richard Maher wrote:

> Whether it is or isn't is a moot point as we have to cater for both
> behaviours anyway. (Safari -vs- Chrome)
>
> If the first getVoices call receives a zero length array I (seems
> wrongly in this case) assume that the browser will update me later with
> a list.
>

Here's the best I can come up with as Opera is small beer and I have to 
get on to speech Recognition: -

The first getVoices() tells Opera to swing into action.
Opera needs you to release the thread so it can get the voices info
Opera will not honour/deliver the onvoiceschanged event.
I stick a setTimout(myvoicesHandler,0) in there.
If the handler gets voices it updates the selections else it stays at zero
the feature detection has to move way down into the code

> But regardless of the programming solutions to that conundrum I appear
> to have a configuration/installation issue. I re-installed Opera 28 but
> still no joy. Either I'm missing a few files of the Voice URIs are wrong
> somewhere?
>

???

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#27181 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On 4/3/2015 7:28 AM, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:

> Is this a standard event? I don't see onvoiceschanged in the spec:
>
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/speech-api/raw-file/tip/speechapi.html#speechreco-events

FYI https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/speech-api/raw-file/tip/speechapi-errata.html

E11 2013-10-17 (Important):
Section 5.2 IDL: "attribute EventHandler onvoiceschanged;" is added to 
"interface SpeechSynthesis : EventTarget".
Section 5.2.2 getVoices method: append at the end of the definition:
If there are no voices available, or if the the list of available voices 
is not yet known (for example: server-side synthesis where the list is 
determined asynchronously), then this method MUST return a 
SpeechSynthesisVoiceList of length zero.
New "Section 5.2.2.1 SpeechSynthesis Events" is created and contains:
voiceschanged: Fired when the contents of the SpeechSynthesisVoiceList, 
that the getVoices method will return, have changed. Examples include: 
server-side synthesis where the list is determined asynchronously, or 
when client-side voices are installed/uninstalled.

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#27188 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:55:56 +0800, Richard Maher wrote:

>there are no 
>known/registered/available voices for Opera Mobile on my Android phone :-(
>
>
>"Sing for me Christine! Sing my angel, SING!" Sorry couldn't help it.

I had to look it up, but that *is* funny:

http://www.lyrics.net/lyric/7303089
Phantom of the Opera Suite
..
"Sing, my angel of music!"

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#27194 — Re: Opera mobile has laryngitis

On 4/5/2015 12:49 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>
> I had to look it up, but that *is* funny:
>
> http://www.lyrics.net/lyric/7303089
> Phantom of the Opera Suite
> ..
> "Sing, my angel of music!"
>
>

Mate, they're all funny!

I remember when we were living in London and caught the show (Which I 
highly recommend to everyone! And I'm happily married with 3 kids :-)

When Christine finally finishes, everyone is so gob-smacked at the 
magnificence of the performance that before we have time to applaud 
they've moved on to the next act :-(

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