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  <span> text replacement ?? "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2013-02-02 13:41 -0700
    Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-02 23:10 +0200
      Re: <span> text replacement ?? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-03 08:58 +1100
        Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-02-03 00:51 +0100
          Re: <span> text replacement ?? Jim T. <x@y.z> - 2013-02-03 12:03 -0500
            Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-02-04 01:47 +0100
          Re: <span> text replacement ?? Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-04 22:40 +0100
        Re: <span> text replacement ?? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-03 02:03 +0100
          Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2013-02-02 18:28 -0700
            Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-03 07:49 +0200
              Re: <span> text replacement ?? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-03 21:08 +1100
      Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-03 07:45 +0200
        Re: <span> text replacement ?? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-03 21:11 +1100
          Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-03 15:38 +0200
            Re: <span> text replacement ?? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-04 06:56 +1100
              Re: <span> text replacement ?? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-03 22:35 +0100
                Re: <span> text replacement ?? Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-02-04 02:08 +0100
                  Re: <span> text replacement ?? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-04 02:35 +0100
            Re: <span> text replacement ?? Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-04 22:54 +0100
              Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-05 00:12 +0200
                Re: <span> text replacement ?? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-06 11:42 +1100
                  Re: <span> text replacement ?? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-06 07:50 +0200
                    Re: <span> text replacement ?? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-02-06 17:36 +1100
                Re: <span> text replacement ?? Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-09 00:46 +0100
        Re: <span> text replacement ?? Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-02-04 02:21 +0100

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#18357

On 5/02/2013 9:12 AM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 2013-02-04 23:54, Eric Bednarz wrote:
>
>> "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> writes:
>>
>>> [...] 'The practical choice is the innerHTML property: [...]
>>
>> With the exception of quarterly management blurbs, I strongly disagree
>> with using 'practical' as a synonym for 'bad'.
>
> In this case, "practical" means something that actually solves the
> problem presented, instead of creating an amorphous collection of new
> problems or presenting pointless theoretical rants about problems that
> were not asked about.

You say it like you know what you're talking about but you never present 
any of the problems you seem to think are obvious, nor do you explain 
why a raised point is in fact pointless. How's anyone supposed to learn 
from your posts when all we read is "I'm right and you're wrong"?

Andrew Poulos

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#18360

2013-02-06 2:42, Andrew Poulos wrote:

>> In this case, "practical" means something that actually solves the
>> problem presented, instead of creating an amorphous collection of new
>> problems or presenting pointless theoretical rants about problems that
>> were not asked about.
>
> You say it like you know what you're talking about but you never present
> any of the problems you seem to think are obvious, nor do you explain
> why a raised point is in fact pointless. How's anyone supposed to learn
> from your posts when all we read is "I'm right and you're wrong"?

Instead of abstract metadiscussion, why don't you look at the question 
that was asked? It was about simple replacement of the text content of a 
<span> element. Some people (and I don't mean you here - you gave an 
alternative solution, which is just a little clumsier) just can't give a 
practical answer and, worse still, attack people who do.

-- 
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

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#18361

On 6/02/2013 4:50 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 2013-02-06 2:42, Andrew Poulos wrote:
>
>>> In this case, "practical" means something that actually solves the
>>> problem presented, instead of creating an amorphous collection of new
>>> problems or presenting pointless theoretical rants about problems that
>>> were not asked about.
>>
>> You say it like you know what you're talking about but you never present
>> any of the problems you seem to think are obvious, nor do you explain
>> why a raised point is in fact pointless. How's anyone supposed to learn
>> from your posts when all we read is "I'm right and you're wrong"?
>
> Instead of abstract metadiscussion, why don't you look at the question
> that was asked? It was about simple replacement of the text content of a
> <span> element. Some people (and I don't mean you here - you gave an
> alternative solution, which is just a little clumsier) just can't give a
> practical answer and, worse still, attack people who do.

What are "amorphous collection", "pointless theoretical rants", and 
"abstract metadiscussion" but strawmen? They do nothing for me in 
understanding why you believe only in innerHTML.

Andrew Poulos

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#18411

"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> writes:

> 2013-02-04 23:54, Eric Bednarz wrote:
>
>> "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> writes:
>>
>>> [...] 'The practical choice is the innerHTML property: [...]
>>
>> With the exception of quarterly management blurbs, I strongly disagree
>> with using 'practical' as a synonym for 'bad'.
>
> In this case, "practical" means something that actually solves the
> problem presented, instead of creating an amorphous collection of new
> problems or presenting pointless theoretical rants about problems that
> were not asked about.

Interesting. Would you agree, then, that in the 90ies, the answer to
"how do I make a web page?" was "FrontPage Express" and that
c.i.w.a.h. as whole can retrospectively be considered am amorphous
collection of pointless theoretical rants about problems that were not
asked about?

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#18336

Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

> 2013-02-02 23:10, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 
>> The practical choice is the
>> innerHTML property:
> 
> Oh, I should probably have warned that there will be a long rant by
> someone who wants to be a FAQ maintainer but cannot answer even a
> simplest question, like this, in a practical way.

I consider myself to be quite pragmatic[1], but I wouldn't use a truck
to fetch my morning buns.  In the worst case I would stuck in a traffic
jam and arrive at the bakery after the buns were sold out.  In the best
case I would get the buns for the double price (as I would have to pay
the gas).

[1] I quite like your "The pragmatic guide to HTML"
(<http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/pragmatic-html.html8>).

-- 
Christoph M. Becker

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