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| First post | 2013-10-19 11:56 -0700 |
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JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-19 11:56 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-20 04:42 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-21 15:50 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 10:01 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-22 20:04 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-24 14:31 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 15:08 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-25 14:39 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 14:41 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-20 17:37 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-20 21:13 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Adam Silver <adambsilver@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 07:49 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 09:03 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Adam Silver <adambsilver@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 07:06 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 10:10 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Adam Silver <adambsilver@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 10:28 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 12:57 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-22 13:33 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-10-29 03:45 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-29 09:22 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-29 20:05 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-29 19:41 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-30 09:35 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 13:30 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-10-30 11:57 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 13:40 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-31 23:21 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 15:28 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-31 23:50 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-02 18:48 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 21:05 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-04 01:49 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-05 19:26 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-06 01:12 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-07 16:53 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-08 02:02 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-09 18:43 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> - 2013-11-06 00:22 -0500
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 22:24 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-10-30 18:13 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-10-30 20:08 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-10-31 07:12 +0100
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 16:57 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 16:27 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> - 2013-11-01 13:16 -0400
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 09:49 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-11-02 12:57 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-11-01 17:27 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-11-01 19:45 +0200
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> - 2013-11-01 14:51 -0400
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-02 18:55 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-11-03 09:13 +0200
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-01 21:14 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-11-02 02:49 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-02 08:48 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-11-02 13:07 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-02 21:44 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-11-02 12:45 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 19:54 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-11-02 12:58 -0700
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 00:05 +0000
Re: JSFAQ.org, Hosting and Contributors. Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-02 18:50 +0000
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 20:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e488432f-013a-43e1-9728-6f7e8ecd86fa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #21793 |
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:13:36 PM UTC-5, Dr J R Stockton wrote: > But we must remember that the stealing of resources is an essential part of > the American way of life. Following in the tradition of British ancestry of course. What was the saying? "Dominion over palm and pine"? But unlike them, the sun (thus far) still sets on the American Empire.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2013-10-31 07:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1405859.5DlnX1a6ig@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #21772 |
Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
> Adam Silver wrote:
>> Bit concerned that we now have the current/out-of-date FAQ, Thomas
>> Lahns' updated FAQ on his website, Scotts Sauyet's proposed Github
>> solution, your proposed Github solution and now my placeholder
>> organisation.
>
> I am more than a bit concerned about that. Which of these FAQs is the
> official one?
The true intentions of a person are revealed
by the results of their actions.
─Surak
Let each person choose the FAQ they wish to refer to when they need to refer
to one.
> Which FAQ will be appropriately maintained in the (near) future?
I have no plans stopping the maintenance/editing of the FAQ for
comp.lang.javascript.
> If I have suggestions for improvement, how can I convey
> these--and to whom?
See my initial proposition. My modus operandi is not going to change, so
your future contributions will be considered the same as your past ones.
> I'm not sure what would be the best solution for the sake of this
> newsgroup, but I'm rather confident, that having several FAQs isn't it.
ACK. OTOH, I rather have competing approaches to a FAQ than (effectively)
no FAQ.
--
PointedEars
Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-10-31 16:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ad086eea-78df-4527-a688-96cf982e960c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #21772 |
On Monday, October 28, 2013 7:45:41 PM UTC-7, Christoph Michael Becker wrote: > Adam Silver wrote: > > > > > Bit concerned that we now have the current/out-of-date FAQ, Thomas > > > Lahns' updated FAQ on his website, Scotts Sauyet's proposed Github > > > solution, your proposed Github solution and now my placeholder > > > organisation. > > > > I am more than a bit concerned about that. Which of these FAQs is the > > official one? Which FAQ will be appropriately maintained in the (near) > > future? If I have suggestions for improvement, how can I convey > > these--and to whom? > > > > I'm not sure what would be the best solution for the sake of this > > newsgroup, but I'm rather confident, that having several FAQs isn't it. > > Andrew Paulos, John Stockton, Adam Silver, and Michael Haufe all seem to think I'm not doing the right thing here. So I have to ask, then, what is it that I'm doing wrong? Better yet, what is the right thing to be doing here?
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 16:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <l50kpg$msm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21811 |
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:57:05 -0700, dhtml wrote: > Andrew Paulos, John Stockton, Adam Silver, and Michael Haufe all seem to > think I'm not doing the right thing here. So I have to ask, then, what > is it that I'm doing wrong? Better yet, what is the right thing to be > doing here? The right thing to do is not to try and hijack control of the faq. In that respect you seem to be as bad as elf ears. There is no clear consensus in the group on the way ahead. Hence it is inappropriate for anyone to have made or be making any changes or arrangements relating to the future of the faq at present. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 13:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <196j34aajnuxp$.txtxcjsg7rhj.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #21815 |
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC), Denis McMahon wrote: > There is no clear consensus in the group I suspect that a consensus may never emerge. Whose opinion matters the most? I count myself as probably the least knowledgable regular contributor in the group. I'm not sure why I bother to continue subscribing, now that all my newbish questions have been answered to the level needed for me to write the little scripts I used to embellish my "pet" website. Is it too early to perform a poll? -- http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
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| From | dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 09:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b5ae7d4d-0325-4a85-8594-803fd8b458a6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #21815 |
On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:27:28 AM UTC-7, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:57:05 -0700, dhtml wrote: > > > > > Andrew Paulos, John Stockton, Adam Silver, and Michael Haufe all seem to > > > think I'm not doing the right thing here. So I have to ask, then, what > > > is it that I'm doing wrong? Better yet, what is the right thing to be > > > doing here? > > > > The right thing to do is not to try and hijack control of the faq. > > > > In that respect you seem to be as bad as elf ears. > > > > There is no clear consensus in the group on the way ahead. Hence it is > > inappropriate for anyone to have made or be making any changes or > > arrangements relating to the future of the faq at present. > I see it is not wanted. That I am not wanted here. I have no more to do with this group.
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 12:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0519020e-7c56-4ab0-a392-f7e72e1b027f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #21850 |
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 11:49:44 AM UTC-5, dhtml wrote: > I see it is not wanted. What is not wanted is for one person to run with it regardless of any misgivings. You didn't even wait 24 hours for your earlier mentioned opponents to respond. If the FAQ needs anything, it's a maintainer/editor of better stability. > That I am not wanted here. The FAQ and yourself are not tied at the hip > I have no more to do with this group. A shame.
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 17:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0.060c498c6d9869967b99.20131101172744GMT.8761sc6nhr.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #21811 |
dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> writes: <snip> > [...] what is the right thing to be doing here? I'd suggest answering questions, should any actually be posted. If, as seems increasingly likely, there are none, everything else becomes moot (US sense) anyway. -- Ben.
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| From | "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 19:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <l50pcj$oor$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21825 |
2013-11-01 19:27, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> writes: > <snip> >> [...] what is the right thing to be doing here? > > I'd suggest answering questions, should any actually be posted. That's a good idea, or at least the most constructive presented in this thread. > If, as > seems increasingly likely, there are none, everything else becomes moot > (US sense) anyway. Once upon a time, FAQs were really answers to Frequently Asked Questions. Later, companies stating putting "FAQ pages" or even "FAQ sections" on their web sites, often answering just question they wanted people to ask - you c an even see "FAQs" on brand new sites, so that nobody really had the opportunity to ask a question, not to mention asking a question frequently. It seems that discussions about the FAQ are, at best, about questions that used to be frequently asked here years ago; at worst, much worse. Some of them might still be relevant. But talking about FAQs is disproportionate, when there are so few real on-topic questions here, and hardly any frequently asked questions. And all the foolish talk about FAQs, in addition to frequent trolling, with pointless lectures that carefully avoid answering real questions realistically, has made the relatively amount, and probably the absolute amount too, of genuine questions smaller and smaller. Unfortunately, it is difficult to declare a Usenet group officially dead. And maybe this group still has some hope. Maybe the wannabe "FAQ maintainers" just find some other things to spoil, leaving more space to actual discussions about JavaScript. Maybe pigs will fly. -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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| From | Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 14:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sjhk9lp1hwf2$.12ve57hvu68un$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #21828 |
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:45:57 +0200, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2013-11-01 19:27, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > >> dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> writes: >> <snip> >>> [...] what is the right thing to be doing here? >> >> I'd suggest answering questions, should any actually be posted. > > That's a good idea, or at least the most constructive presented in this > thread. > >> If, as >> seems increasingly likely, there are none, everything else becomes moot >> (US sense) anyway. > > Once upon a time, FAQs were really answers to Frequently Asked > Questions. Later, companies stating putting "FAQ pages" or even "FAQ > sections" on their web sites, often answering just question they wanted > ... "FAQs" on brand new sites, so that nobody > really had the opportunity to ask a question, "Fervently Anticipated Questions"
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 18:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1zobHsYlqUdSFwe$@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #21828 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <l50pcj$oor$1@dont-email.me>, Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:45:57, Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> posted: >Once upon a time, FAQs were really answers to Frequently Asked >Questions. That was not the real intent. They were intended to be the answers to *previously* frequently-asked questions, and thus to stop those questions remaining frequently-asked. With a sufficiently intelligent readership, the questions in the FAQ would never again be asked. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. Mail via homepage. Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQqish topics, acronyms and links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc. No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Mail no News.
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| From | "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> |
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| Date | 2013-11-03 09:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <l54t1u$77s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21861 |
2013-11-02 20:55, Dr J R Stockton wrote: > In comp.lang.javascript message <l50pcj$oor$1@dont-email.me>, Fri, 1 Nov > 2013 19:45:57, Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> posted: > >> Once upon a time, FAQs were really answers to Frequently Asked >> Questions. > > That was not the real intent. The statement you quoted describes what FAQs were, not what their intent was. > They were intended to be the answers to > *previously* frequently-asked questions, and thus to stop those > questions remaining frequently-asked. Hardly. The realistic intent was to provide a document that can be referred to when frequently asked questions were asked again. People would still post those questions, and would get miscellaneous wrong answers, but they might also get a a decent, compact statement like "This is a frequently asked question, which is answered at ...". > With a sufficiently intelligent > readership, the questions in the FAQ would never again be asked. Few people, if any, expected Usenet users to be "sufficiently intelligent" in that sense, which is much more than just intelligence. We didn't really expect newcomers to even know that there is a FAQ, even in groups with regular FAQ postings. People just posted their questions without reading much of previous postings. We then hoped to help them and others by pointing them to the FAQ. People seldom ask questions addressed in comp.lang.javascript FAQ any more. That's not because people are so intelligent, knowledgeable, and well-behaving that they look at the FAQ before posting. Rather, because this group has so little to offer. If you try asking how to compute 2 + 2, you will get an essay-long lecture that starts from blaming you for the software you used for posting and ends nowhere, and carefully avoids answering the question in any useful way. -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 21:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <011120132114210672%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #21825 |
In article <0.060c498c6d9869967b99.20131101172744GMT.8761sc6nhr.fsf@bsb.me.uk>, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> writes: > <snip> > > [...] what is the right thing to be doing here? > > I'd suggest answering questions, should any actually be posted. If, as > seems increasingly likely, there are none, everything else becomes moot > (US sense) anyway. What d'ye mean, US sense. That's how I would use it. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 02:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0.dd9d48f97c04ba019e3e.20131102024900GMT.87ob635xib.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #21844 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> writes: > In article > <0.060c498c6d9869967b99.20131101172744GMT.8761sc6nhr.fsf@bsb.me.uk>, > Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > >> dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> writes: >> <snip> >> > [...] what is the right thing to be doing here? >> >> I'd suggest answering questions, should any actually be posted. If, as >> seems increasingly likely, there are none, everything else becomes moot >> (US sense) anyway. > > What d'ye mean, US sense. That's how I would use it. OED: 2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical significance or relevance; abstract, academic. That's the sense I meant. -- Ben.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 08:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <021120130848149777%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #21846 |
In article <0.dd9d48f97c04ba019e3e.20131102024900GMT.87ob635xib.fsf@bsb.me.uk>, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> writes: > > > In article > > <0.060c498c6d9869967b99.20131101172744GMT.8761sc6nhr.fsf@bsb.me.uk>, > > Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > > > >> dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> writes: > >> <snip> > >> > [...] what is the right thing to be doing here? > >> > >> I'd suggest answering questions, should any actually be posted. If, as > >> seems increasingly likely, there are none, everything else becomes moot > >> (US sense) anyway. > > > > What d'ye mean, US sense. That's how I would use it. > > OED: > > 2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical > significance or relevance; abstract, academic. > > That's the sense I meant. <furtle furtle> Humph. Looks like you're right. Odd, I've never used in in any other sense. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 13:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0.7357f30aa3acbff49e8e.20131102130744GMT.87iowb54v3.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #21848 |
On the word "moot": Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> writes: <snip> > Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: <snip> >> OED: >> >> 2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical >> significance or relevance; abstract, academic. <snip> > [...] Odd, I've never used in in any other sense. I think you are not alone. I put "US sense" just to be clear, but my impression is that it is often used with that meaning in the UK too. For one thing, the OED's UK meaning of being up for debate, is not nearly so useful. -- Ben.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 21:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <021120132144374681%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #21849 |
In article <0.7357f30aa3acbff49e8e.20131102130744GMT.87iowb54v3.fsf@bsb.me.uk>, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > On the word "moot": > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> writes: > <snip> > > Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > <snip> > >> OED: > >> > >> 2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical > >> significance or relevance; abstract, academic. > <snip> > > [...] Odd, I've never used in in any other sense. > > I think you are not alone. I put "US sense" just to be clear, but my > impression is that it is often used with that meaning in the UK too. > For one thing, the OED's UK meaning of being up for debate, is not > nearly so useful. :-) Or it may be (for me) that: 1) I didn't hear the word used much until later in life 2) by which time I'd spent 12 years in the US and had perhaps absorbed the US meaning there without realising it. In this instance I prefer the US meaning. There. I'll table that for discussion <runs away>. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 12:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <331f57e4-d363-4c95-89bd-558d1b0bbdbd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #21811 |
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:57:05 PM UTC-5, dhtml wrote: > Andrew Paulos, John Stockton, Adam Silver, and Michael Haufe all seem to think I'm not doing the right thing here. So I have to ask, then, what is it that I'm doing wrong? Better yet, what is the right thing to be doing here? My stance is one of skepticism. Thomas's comment here I am in agreement with: <https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.lang.javascript/fW-DZEEV4zQ/01OuPP4RriIJ> While it's true you've backed away from that quickly and have now gone for a more open approach, you've continued to operate as if you are the official steward of the FAQ. Your actions recently smell to me as being more politically driven than anything else. The group is in general agreement, I believe, that either yourself or Thomas should be the FAQ maintainer. The problem though, from my perspective, is that you two seem to have a personality conflict that would prevent any form of collaboration.
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 19:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <l53lai$61j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21851 |
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:45:35 -0700, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote: > The group is in general agreement, I believe, that either yourself or > Thomas should be the FAQ maintainer. I'm not convinced that there is a general agreement that one or the other (or jointly both) of them should be the faq maintainer, but I may be viewing things through my own distorted lenses. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 12:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cba203f9-55a9-4d59-9648-0b391c8e82c8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #21852 |
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:54:58 PM UTC-5, Denis McMahon wrote: > I'm not convinced that there is a general agreement that one or the other > (or jointly both) of them should be the faq maintainer, but I may be > viewing things through my own distorted lenses. What is your view then?
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