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What does the Controller really do in MVC?

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  What does the Controller really do in MVC? luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 18:24 -0800
    Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 22:34 -0800
      Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Elhwen Dico <elhwen.dicote@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 14:37 +0100
        Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 19:09 -0800
    Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-12-04 13:52 -0800
      Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-05 02:52 -0800
        Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-12-05 09:27 -0800
          Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-05 15:01 -0800
            OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-12-07 19:30 +0100
          Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-12-06 01:11 +0100
            Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-05 23:53 -0800
      Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 17:09 -0800
        Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-05 23:55 -0800
          Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 02:04 -0800
            Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-07 06:10 -0800
              Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-12-07 19:35 +0100
                Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-07 23:53 -0800
                  Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-12-08 09:26 +0100
                    Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-08 00:36 -0800
                      OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-12-10 11:51 +0100
                        Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2021-12-10 12:07 +0000
                          Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-10 04:50 -0800
                        Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-12-10 12:56 +0000
                          Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-10 05:06 -0800
                          Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-12-11 01:54 +0100
                            Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-11 10:09 +0100
                  Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2021-12-08 19:54 +0000
                    Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2021-12-08 22:24 +0100
                      Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-09 09:33 +0000
                        Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 07:53 -0800
                        Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2021-12-09 19:41 +0000
                          Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-09 19:44 +0000
              Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 10:42 -0800
          Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC? Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 02:08 -0800
          OT: bots posting here? (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-12-07 19:32 +0100

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#40649 — Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

On 2021-12-10, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

[Schnipp]

> Are you sure that you are human and not a bad copy of ELIZA?

ELIZA was fun.
-- 
Jan v/d Broek
balglaas@dds.nl

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#40650 — Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

On Friday, 10 December 2021 at 13:07:58 UTC+1, Jan van den Broek wrote:
> On 2021-12-10, Arno Welzel <use...@arnowelzel.de> wrote: 
> 
> [Schnipp]
> > Are you sure that you are human and not a bad copy of ELIZA?
> 
> ELIZA was fun. 

There is fun and fun: the fun you should look for here is simply not the same as the fun you'd e.g. look for at the pub.  And learning is *a lot* of fun, when it happens...

Julio

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#40651 — Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

On 2021-12-10, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> Julio Di Egidio:
>> On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 09:27:01 UTC+1, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Julio Di Egidio:
>>>> Just fuck off you and this pathetic rotten brigade. (EOD.) 
>>>>
>>>> *Plonk*
>>>
>>> As usual.
>> 
>> As usual you just cannot even read.
>> 
>> How fucking *pathetic*.
>> 
>> *Plonk*
>
> As usual. You say "*Plonk*" but you don't even know what that means and
> continue to read all I write.

Sorry, you're misunderstanding him. When Plonk Julio says "Plonk",
he is not saying *he* is plonking *you*, he is making the very
sensible and worthwhile suggestion that *you* plonk *him*.
It's excellent advice.

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#40652 — Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

On Friday, 10 December 2021 at 13:56:48 UTC+1, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2021-12-10, Arno Welzel <use...@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> > Julio Di Egidio: 
> >> On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 09:27:01 UTC+1, Arno Welzel wrote: 
> >>> Julio Di Egidio: 
> >>>> Just fuck off you and this pathetic rotten brigade. (EOD.) 
> >>>> 
> >>>> *Plonk* 
> >>> 
> >>> As usual. 
> >> 
> >> As usual you just cannot even read. 
> >> 
> >> How fucking *pathetic*. 
> >> 
> >> *Plonk* 
> > 
> > As usual. You say "*Plonk*" but you don't even know what that means and 
> > continue to read all I write.
> Sorry, you're misunderstanding him. When Plonk Julio says "Plonk", 
> he is not saying *he* is plonking *you*, he is making the very 
> sensible and worthwhile suggestion that *you* plonk *him*. 
> It's excellent advice.

That is nearer to the truth than you would guess.

I have in fact explained several times in the paste to you suckers how I use it, you just won't read...

*Plonk*

Julio

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#40656 — Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

Jon Ribbens wrote:

> On 2021-12-10, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> Julio Di Egidio:
>>> *Plonk*
>>
>> As usual. You say "*Plonk*" but you don't even know what that means and
>> continue to read all I write.
> 
> Sorry, you're misunderstanding him. When Plonk Julio says "Plonk",
> he is not saying *he* is plonking *you*, he is making the very
> sensible and worthwhile suggestion that *you* plonk *him*.
> It's excellent advice.

YMMD :-D

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#40658 — Re: OT: behaviour (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

On 11/12/2021 01:54, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Jon Ribbens wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-12-10, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>>> Julio Di Egidio:
>>>> *Plonk*
>>>
>>> As usual. You say "*Plonk*" but you don't even know what that means and
>>> continue to read all I write.
>>
>> Sorry, you're misunderstanding him. When Plonk Julio says "Plonk",
>> he is not saying *he* is plonking *you*, he is making the very
>> sensible and worthwhile suggestion that *you* plonk *him*.
>> It's excellent advice.
> 
> YMMD :-D

Of all the incompetent morons, suckers and plain retarded spamming cunts 
that have hijacked this place, you are by far the most retarded...

*Troll Alert*

Julio

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#40635

On 08/12/2021 07:53, Julio Di Egidio wrote:

   <snip>
> As I have *repeatedly* pointed out around here, the whole arena has been hijacked and flooded with just FRAUDULENT BULLSHIT since the mid '90s.
   <snip>
And you have *repeatedly* failed to say it clearly enough for us to work 
out why you say that.

Hint : Curses aren't clear enough.

   John

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#40637

On 08/12/2021 20:54, John Harris wrote:
> On 08/12/2021 07:53, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> 
>    <snip>
>> As I have *repeatedly* pointed out around here, the whole arena has 
>> been hijacked and flooded with just FRAUDULENT BULLSHIT since the mid 
>> '90s.
>    <snip>
> And you have *repeatedly* failed to say it clearly enough for us to work 
> out why you say that.
> 
> Hint : Curses aren't clear enough.

Learn to use question marks, you bunch of pieces of lying shit.

Indeed, be reassure, you stupid lying nazi retarded cunts: I am indeed 
gonna call everybody by their fucking real name from this point on with 
no discounts made, until either you get a grip or you get at least as 
livid as the fucking poison you keep spilling makes everything that 
breathes.

You fucking *retarded cunts*, ESAD.

*Plonk*

Julio

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#40641

On 08/12/2021 21:24, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> On 08/12/2021 20:54, John Harris wrote:
>> On 08/12/2021 07:53, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>
>>    <snip>
>>> As I have *repeatedly* pointed out around here, the whole arena has 
>>> been hijacked and flooded with just FRAUDULENT BULLSHIT since the mid 
>>> '90s.
>>    <snip>
>> And you have *repeatedly* failed to say it clearly enough for us to 
>> work out why you say that.
>>
>> Hint : Curses aren't clear enough.
> 
> Learn to use question marks, you bunch of pieces of lying shit.
> 
> Indeed, be reassure, you stupid lying nazi retarded cunts: I am indeed 
> gonna call everybody by their fucking real name from this point on with 
> no discounts made, until either you get a grip or you get at least as 
> livid as the fucking poison you keep spilling makes everything that 
> breathes.
> 
> You fucking *retarded cunts*, ESAD.
> 
> *Plonk*
> 
> Julio
With that amount of anger., perhaps coding is an occupation that you 
should eschew in favour of - say - needlepoint, or flower arranging?


-- 
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as 
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

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#40642

torsdag 9 december 2021 kl. 10:33:42 UTC+1 skrev The Natural Philosopher:
> On 08/12/2021 21:24, Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> > On 08/12/2021 20:54, John Harris wrote: 
> >> On 08/12/2021 07:53, Julio Di Egidio wrote: 
> >> 
> >>    <snip> 
> >>> As I have *repeatedly* pointed out around here, the whole arena has 
> >>> been hijacked and flooded with just FRAUDULENT BULLSHIT since the mid 
> >>> '90s. 
> >>    <snip> 
> >> And you have *repeatedly* failed to say it clearly enough for us to 
> >> work out why you say that. 
> >> 
> >> Hint : Curses aren't clear enough. 
> > 
> > Learn to use question marks, you bunch of pieces of lying shit. 
> > 
> > Indeed, be reassure, you stupid lying nazi retarded cunts: I am indeed 
> > gonna call everybody by their fucking real name from this point on with 
> > no discounts made, until either you get a grip or you get at least as 
> > livid as the fucking poison you keep spilling makes everything that 
> > breathes. 
> > 
> > You fucking *retarded cunts*, ESAD. 
> > 
> > *Plonk* 
> > 
> > Julio
> With that amount of anger., perhaps coding is an occupation that you 
> should eschew in favour of - say - needlepoint, or flower arranging? 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as 
> foolish, and by the rulers as useful. 
> 
> (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
LoL

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#40643

On 09/12/2021 09:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 08/12/2021 21:24, Julio Di Egidio wrote:

   <snip>
>> Julio
> With that amount of anger., perhaps coding is an occupation that you 
> should eschew in favour of - say - needlepoint, or flower arranging?

It's a characteristic of Julio. After talking sensibly for a day or two 
he switches into cursing mode with no information content at all. It's 
rather sad.

   John

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#40644

On 09/12/2021 19:41, John Harris wrote:
> On 09/12/2021 09:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 08/12/2021 21:24, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> 
>    <snip>
>>> Julio
>> With that amount of anger., perhaps coding is an occupation that you 
>> should eschew in favour of - say - needlepoint, or flower arranging?
> 
> It's a characteristic of Julio. After talking sensibly for a day or two 
> he switches into cursing mode with no information content at all. It's 
> rather sad.
> 
>    John
> 
Probably chemical


-- 
The New Left are the people they warned you about.

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#40630

tisdag 7 december 2021 kl. 15:10:35 UTC+1 skrev ju...@diegidio.name:
> On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 11:04:31 UTC+1, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > Your just so anal Julio i think the programmer paradigm have eaten you.
> You asshole(s) have just got no clue what *programming* even means. 
> 
> So let me give you a kick-start: there is no such thing as a "programming 
> paradigm", but there is such essential thing as a *programming discipline*. 
> An engineering discipline, to be specific.
> > You can do things not by the book and still get results.
> Meanwhile an entire and truly critical industry gone down the drain... 
> 
> You bloody morons. 
> 
> (HTH.) 
> 
> Julio
Have you ever noticed Julio its never the anal obsessed disciplined that come up with the good ideas, they are just caretakers of ideas,  they love to drivel in documentation.
They are just the janitors of ideas LoL.

That said obviously both parties needed, to get anything done.

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#40623

måndag 6 december 2021 kl. 08:55:14 UTC+1 skrev ju...@diegidio.name:
> On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 02:09:26 UTC+1, luser...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 3:52:53 PM UTC-6, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote: 
> > > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 8:24:09 PM UTC-6, luser...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > > I'm trying to make a simple web app that displays a piano-roll 
> > > > style grid that you can click in to activate or deactivate notes. 
> > > > And I'm building it off of the MVC classes that I borrowed from 
> > > > Michael Haufe. But I feel like I'm not really making use of the 
> > > > Controller part. 
> > > > [...] 
> > > 
> > > I threw together a quick MVC example this morning. Imperfect and a bit verbose but conceptually 
> > > you might find it useful: 
> > > 
> > > <https://codepen.io/mlhaufe/pen/eYGpBzE?editors=0011> 
> > Very cool. Thanks. It seems that my problem is not applying MVC per se, but applying 
> > Object Orientation more generally. But my big take-away is that the app itself *is* the 
> > controller, or more perspicuously an instance of a subclass of a controller. 
> > 
> > That both answers my question and sheds light on my X/Y problem to boot. 
> > Nice one. Thanks again.
> It's the usual piece of crap code and compendium of all one should NOT do. 
> 
> You spamming pieces of shit. ESAD, both of you! 
> 
> *Plonk* 
> 
> Julio
https://jtmidi.000webhostapp.com/

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#40628 — OT: bots posting here? (was: Re: What does the Controller really do in MVC?)

Julio Di Egidio:

[...]
> It's the usual piece of crap code and compendium of all one should NOT do.
> 
> You spamming pieces of shit.  ESAD, both of you!
> 
> *Plonk*

ROTFLMAO

Is this a bot? I can't believe that any sane real person ever acts like
this.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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