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  Fixing Google Groups Styling "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-20 18:29 -0700
    Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-05-22 03:18 +0200
      Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling James Kirk <noneya.invalid@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 23:59 -0400
        Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-05-22 20:29 +0200
    Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-05-22 13:59 +0200
      Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-22 08:42 -0700
        Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-05-22 20:32 +0200
          Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-22 12:01 -0700
            Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-05-24 01:34 +0200
              Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-24 10:23 -0700
              Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-05-24 22:21 +0200
            Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-05-22 23:37 +0200
    Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 09:25 +0200
      Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 06:03 -0700
        Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 18:36 +0200
    Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-05-23 23:31 -0700
      Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:21 -0800
        Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:26 -0800
          qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling) luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:41 -0800
            Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling) luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:43 -0800
              Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling) denodster@gmail.com (Denodster) - 2021-11-12 00:15 -0500
                Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling) luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2021-11-12 17:12 -0800
                  Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-13 08:27 +0000
                [OT] tlhIngan Hol (was: qapplaH) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-01-19 07:56 +0100
              Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling) Tavis Ormandy <taviso@gmail.com> - 2021-11-12 23:49 +0000

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#40526 — Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling)

In article <89d468a8-dee6-48cc-bce0-df3d4260bba5n@googlegroups.com>,
luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:41:45 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:26:08 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote: 
> > > On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:21:51 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:31:31 AM UTC-5, luserdroog wrote: 
> > > > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:29:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Haufe
(TNO) wrote: 
> > > > > > If you're one of the majority currently viewing the newsgroup
through Google Groups, you've probably noticed they broke layout again. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you use a plugin for user stylesheets you can use the
following to fix the layout: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > html-blob { 
> > > > > > white-space: pre; 
> > > > > > } 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm currently using: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-css/okpjlejfhacmgjkmknjhadmkdbcldfcb>

> > > > > Thanks a bunch! Google support has been wholly unhelpful about this. 
> > > > > Got it to work with: 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/insert-style-sheet-temporarily/>

> > > > This still works. (Actually, I'm doing "pre-wrap" but whatever.)
But it has the unfortunate 
> > > > side effect of doubling the line spacing. Is there a trick to
delete whatever extra newlines 
> > > > are being added? 
> > > > 
> > > > I tried using Firefox's style editor to peek into the style sheets
in use, 
> > > > but there are dozens of sheets with hundreds of rules in each. And
I don't know what I'm 
> > > > even looking for. 
> > > I found something. Don't know what to do with it. GG appears to be
inserting <br> 
> > > elements where the newlines go. So, can I style the <br>s to *not* break?
> > html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;} 
> > br{display:none;}
> 
> Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a
fixed width font
> or tty font?

Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you
could use instead of google groups?

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#40529 — Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling)

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-6, Denodster wrote:
> In article <89d468a8-dee6-48cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> luserdroog <luser...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;} 
> > > br{display:none;} 
> > 
> > Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a 
> fixed width font 
> > or tty font?
> Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you 
> could use instead of google groups?

Well, yeah. I have gnus installed and set up. But somehow I can't get used to it.
I got used to the web interface back when it was DejaNews and just grumbled
and adapted as they've slowly crippled and shackled it. Maybe there's another
that'd suit me better. I keep hearing Thunderbird thunderbird thunderbird from
everybody. But, you know ... inertia. 

That is to say, you're absolutely right. 100%. But I'm not gonna do it.

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#40530 — Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling)

On 13/11/2021 01:12, luserdroog wrote:
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-6, Denodster wrote:
>> In article <89d468a8-dee6-48cc...@googlegroups.com>,
>> luserdroog <luser...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;}
>>>> br{display:none;}
>>>
>>> Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a
>> fixed width font
>>> or tty font?
>> Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you
>> could use instead of google groups?
> 
> Well, yeah. I have gnus installed and set up. But somehow I can't get used to it.
> I got used to the web interface back when it was DejaNews and just grumbled
> and adapted as they've slowly crippled and shackled it. Maybe there's another
> that'd suit me better. I keep hearing Thunderbird thunderbird thunderbird from
> everybody. But, you know ... inertia.
> 
> That is to say, you're absolutely right. 100%. But I'm not gonna do it.
> 

Yup. In the end its s straight cost benefit exercise - learning the 
bloated feature ridden crap  that is thunderbird, *or* fixing up the 
interface on the web site.

Every time Thunderbird does a major upgrade I need to spend a day or two 
researching the web trying to turn it back to how it used to look and feel.

"We don't fix bugs, we add new features"

It's called the 'Poettering Maxim'.



-- 
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your 
oppressors."
      - George Orwell

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#40754 — [OT] tlhIngan Hol (was: qapplaH)

Denodster wrote:

> Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you
> could use instead of google groups?

Also, it is correctly transcribed and pronounced {Qapla'} (with emphasis on 
the last syllable; Klingon for “success”, “victory”), not ”qapplaH”.

{qap} means “insist” instead, in Klingon transcription there is no doubling 
of consonants (e.g. “Kahless” is just {qeylIS}), and the verb modifier
{-laH} means “be able to”.

So, transcription errors aside, they said “(I am) able to insist” instead, 
which will cause a Klingon to laugh at them (and then kill them for showing 
weakness).

<Picard> *facepalm* </Picard>

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#40528 — Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling)

On 2021-11-11, luserdroog wrote:
> Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a fixed width font
> or tty font?

I use this in uBlock Origin (paste it into the My filters tab)

groups.google.com##html-blob:style(white-space: pre!important; font-family: monospace)
groups.google.com##html-blob > br:style(display: none!important)

Tavis.

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