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Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks.

Started byJonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>
First post2019-09-08 23:22 -0700
Last post2019-09-10 14:05 -0700
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  Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-08 23:22 -0700
    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-09-09 10:15 +0200
      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 04:18 -0700
        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 06:40 -0700
          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 06:42 -0700
            Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 06:48 -0700
    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-09 20:16 +0200
      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 11:35 -0700
      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 11:44 -0700
        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 12:00 -0700
          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-10 17:35 +0200
            Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-10 09:24 -0700
              Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-09-10 18:15 +0100
              Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-11 00:58 +0200
                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-10 23:18 -0700
                  Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-11 10:17 +0200
                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-10 23:25 -0700
                  Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Flng Fck <nothanks@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-11 09:19 +0200
                    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-11 00:32 -0700
                      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-11 00:36 -0700
                    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-11 00:39 -0700
                  Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-11 10:20 +0200
                    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-11 02:20 -0700
                      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-12 10:29 +0200
                        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-12 11:53 -0700
                          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2019-09-12 22:33 +0200
                            Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-12 14:42 -0700
                              Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-12 21:44 -0700
                              Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Flng Fck <nothanks@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-13 11:15 +0200
                                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-13 11:13 -0700
                                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-14 06:35 -0700
                              Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-13 14:42 +0200
                                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. HusTler@f122.n1.z21.fsxnet (HusTler) - 2019-09-13 09:28 +1200
                                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-09-14 11:20 +0100
                                  Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-14 22:40 +0200
                                    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-15 03:15 -0700
                                      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-15 03:22 -0700
                                      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-09-15 11:33 +0100
                                        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-15 04:17 -0700
                                          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-15 05:51 -0700
                                          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-09-15 19:19 +0100
                                          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-15 23:52 +0200
                                            Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-16 02:38 -0700
                                              Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-16 11:55 +0200
                                                Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-16 03:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-16 13:49 +0200
                                        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. dr.j.r.stockton@gmail.com - 2019-09-15 06:40 -0700
    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Maik Koenig <usenetspam@maikkoenig.de> - 2019-09-09 23:20 +0200
      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 20:43 -0700
        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-09 20:46 -0700
        Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-11 00:52 +0200
          Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-10 15:57 -0700
            Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2019-09-11 10:15 +0200
    Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-09-10 12:43 -0700
      Re: Breakdown a HTML file into sub textblocks. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-10 14:05 -0700

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#37254

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2019-09-15 19:19 +0100
Message-ID<r30tne5bci90qoo7d1impmsg1spsbuotde@4ax.com>
In reply to#37250
On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 04:17:14 -0700 (PDT), Julio Di Egidio
<julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

  <snip>
> FYI, JS and ECMAScript
>are *synonyms*.

ECMAScript :
"ECMAScript as defined here is not intended to be computationally
self-sufficient; indeed, there are no provisions in this specification
for input of external data or output of computed results."

JavaScript :
In a browser it can change what's on the screen without talking to the
web server.
In a web server it does other things (if still available).

Only the very confused say that ECMAScript and JavaScript are
synonyms.

  John

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#37256

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2019-09-15 23:52 +0200
Message-ID<gu7q55F8gvpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37250
Julio Di Egidio:

> On Sunday, 15 September 2019 12:33:56 UTC+2, John G Harris  wrote:
[...]
>> Nor for that matter has anyone ever said what exactly a language must
>> do to be named "JavaScript" or "JS". 
> 
> Do you often make of your ignorance a universal law?  FYI, JS and ECMAScript
> are *synonyms*.

JavaScript is an *implementation* which conforms to the ECMAScript
specification (like JScript or ActionScript) but not a synonym.

And yes, the DOM is not part of the ECMAScript specification. But since
many people write JavaScript code to be run in a browser, *using* the
DOM will be discussed here as well. Where else should this be this on
topic when not here?


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#37263

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2019-09-16 02:38 -0700
Message-ID<3fbf7f5a-858c-4329-be4d-cf9aa6ebe10a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37256
On Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:52:42 UTC+2, Arno Welzel  wrote:
> Julio Di Egidio:
> > On Sunday, 15 September 2019 12:33:56 UTC+2, John G Harris  wrote:
> [...]
> >> Nor for that matter has anyone ever said what exactly a language must
> >> do to be named "JavaScript" or "JS". 
> > 
> > Do you often make of your ignorance a universal law?  FYI, JS and ECMAScript
> > are *synonyms*.
> 
> JavaScript is an *implementation* which conforms to the ECMAScript
> specification (like JScript or ActionScript) but not a synonym.

NO!  It is a plain synonym unless people are specifically talking about
versions and manufacturers, in which case you still have JScript or other
stuff, not plain JavaScript: indeed, keep in mind that ES is just the
rebranding of good old JS, not to mention (just as one example!) people like
Crockford who were writing about JS (JavaScript!) even before you were born
(I'd guess, since you too just echo the pervasive contemporary bullshit).

> And yes, the DOM is not part of the ECMAScript specification. But since
> many people write JavaScript code to be run in a browser, *using* the
> DOM will be discussed here as well. Where else should this be this on
> topic when not here?

It was comp.web.authoring or something like that, I don't even remember as
that group has been long dead.  But I generally don't mind people posting
(slightly) off topic, here or elsewhere, I do mind people feeling entitled
to just shit all over the place.

You too, STFU every now and then and learn something for a change.

HTH,

Julio

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#37267

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2019-09-16 11:55 +0200
Message-ID<gu94g8Fgnp6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37263
On 16.09.19 11:38, Julio Di Egidio wrote:

> On Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:52:42 UTC+2, Arno Welzel  wrote:
>> Julio Di Egidio:
>>> On Sunday, 15 September 2019 12:33:56 UTC+2, John G Harris  wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Nor for that matter has anyone ever said what exactly a language must
>>>> do to be named "JavaScript" or "JS". 
>>>
>>> Do you often make of your ignorance a universal law?  FYI, JS and ECMAScript
>>> are *synonyms*.
>>
>> JavaScript is an *implementation* which conforms to the ECMAScript
>> specification (like JScript or ActionScript) but not a synonym.
> 
> NO!  It is a plain synonym unless people are specifically talking about

ECMAScript is the standard, JavaScript one of its implementations.

> versions and manufacturers, in which case you still have JScript or other
> stuff, not plain JavaScript: indeed, keep in mind that ES is just the
> rebranding of good old JS, not to mention (just as one example!) people like
> Crockford who were writing about JS (JavaScript!) even before you were born
> (I'd guess, since you too just echo the pervasive contemporary bullshit).

JFTR: I was born before the web and browsers even existed and when the
Apollo program was still something new.

[...]
> HTH,

Sorry, no. You didn't help.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#37269

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2019-09-16 03:03 -0700
Message-ID<ec3ede6f-fc79-4657-a00a-49058c7fb67f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37267
On Monday, 16 September 2019 11:55:27 UTC+2, Arno Welzel  wrote:
> On 16.09.19 11:38, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > On Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:52:42 UTC+2, Arno Welzel  wrote:
> >> Julio Di Egidio:
> >>> On Sunday, 15 September 2019 12:33:56 UTC+2, John G Harris  wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>>> Nor for that matter has anyone ever said what exactly a language must
> >>>> do to be named "JavaScript" or "JS". 
> >>>
> >>> Do you often make of your ignorance a universal law?  FYI, JS and ECMAScript
> >>> are *synonyms*.
> >>
> >> JavaScript is an *implementation* which conforms to the ECMAScript
> >> specification (like JScript or ActionScript) but not a synonym.
> > 
> > NO!  It is a plain synonym unless people are specifically talking about
> 
> ECMAScript is the standard, JavaScript one of its implementations.

You have to repeat it three times in a row to make it true.

> > versions and manufacturers, in which case you still have JScript or other
> > stuff, not plain JavaScript: indeed, keep in mind that ES is just the
> > rebranding of good old JS, not to mention (just as one example!) people like
> > Crockford who were writing about JS (JavaScript!) even before you were born
> > (I'd guess, since you too just echo the pervasive contemporary bullshit).
> 
> JFTR: I was born before the web and browsers even existed and when the
> Apollo program was still something new.

Good, so you do not even have that excuse, you are just yet another resident
arrogant and total ass.

> > HTH,
> 
> Sorry, no. You didn't help.

The world does not end at you...

*Plonk*

Julio

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#37272

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2019-09-16 13:49 +0200
Message-ID<gu9b72Fi2qpU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37269
On 16.09.19 12:03, Julio Di Egidio wrote:

[...]
> Good, so you do not even have that excuse, you are just yet another resident
> arrogant and total ass.
[...]
> *Plonk*

EOD for me.

         \|||/
         (o o)
,----ooO--(_)-------.
| Please            |
|   don't feed the  |
|     TROLL's !     |
'--------------Ooo--'
        |__|__|
         || ||
        ooO Ooo




-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#37252

Fromdr.j.r.stockton@gmail.com
Date2019-09-15 06:40 -0700
Message-ID<391eac3b-a775-43e6-a1a1-066eb25e9085@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37249
On Sunday, 15 September 2019 11:33:56 UTC+1, John G Harris  wrote:

> Nor for that matter has anyone ever said what exactly a language must
> do to be named "JavaScript" or "JS". 

It must comply more nearly with the ECMA standard than it does with any other standard of comparable scope.  (I have just spoken that, so your cited sentence should never be re-issued just as it is.)

For example, the final Windows version of Safari definitely had JavaScript, even though its Date Object did not comply with the accepted language standard - it did not even comply with /Inter Gravissimas/.

An extended version of language cannot rightly be called just "JavaScript", until ECMA extends its standard accordingly.


Assuming that Jonas uses Windows, he can easily enough write an authoring-time pre-processor, in JScript, to do sufficiently easily what he seems to want to do.

-- 
  (c) John Stockton, near London, UK.  Using Google Groups.           |
 Mail: J.R.""""""""@physics.org - or as Reply-To, if any.             |

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#37188

FromMaik Koenig <usenetspam@maikkoenig.de>
Date2019-09-09 23:20 +0200
Message-ID<ql6mnq.65g.1@mid.maikkoenig.de>
In reply to#37178
Am 09.09.2019 um 08:36 schrieb Jonas Thörnvall:

https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Idiot

Greetz,
MK
-- 
Kopp-Verlag-Gläubige, Religionsdeppen, rechte Vollidioten
 und ähnlicher Bio-Abfall werden ohne Hinweis ignoriert!
                https://das-ist-afd.de/

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#37189

FromJonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>
Date2019-09-09 20:43 -0700
Message-ID<f291d377-ed79-469c-aba2-25767f7c8263@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37188
Den måndag 9 september 2019 kl. 23:20:59 UTC+2 skrev Maik Koenig:
> Am 09.09.2019 um 08:36 schrieb Jonas Thörnvall:
> 
> https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
> 
> Idiot
> 
> Greetz,
> MK
> -- 
> Kopp-Verlag-Gläubige, Religionsdeppen, rechte Vollidioten
>  und ähnlicher Bio-Abfall werden ohne Hinweis ignoriert!
>                 https://das-ist-afd.de/

I am a lucky idiot with 187 in IQ, that feel not quite happy with analysing monkeys attempt at implementing object oriented languages, because they have missed the point.

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#37190

FromJonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>
Date2019-09-09 20:46 -0700
Message-ID<7a03a114-f935-41a0-8463-ba1232bdc899@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37189
Den tisdag 10 september 2019 kl. 05:43:11 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> Den måndag 9 september 2019 kl. 23:20:59 UTC+2 skrev Maik Koenig:
> > Am 09.09.2019 um 08:36 schrieb Jonas Thörnvall:
> > 
> > https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
> > 
> > Idiot
> > 
> > Greetz,
> > MK
> > -- 
> > Kopp-Verlag-Gläubige, Religionsdeppen, rechte Vollidioten
> >  und ähnlicher Bio-Abfall werden ohne Hinweis ignoriert!
> >                 https://das-ist-afd.de/
> 
> I am a lucky idiot with 187 in IQ, that feel not quite happy with analysing monkeys attempt at implementing object oriented languages, because they have missed the point.

Maybe you should try get lucky so you also get 187 in IQ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5EofwRzit0

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#37206

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2019-09-11 00:52 +0200
Message-ID<gtqnp5FgokbU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37189
Jonas Thörnvall:

> I am a lucky idiot with 187 in IQ, that feel not quite happy with
> analysing monkeys attempt at implementing object oriented languages,
> because they have missed the point.

Then implement your own language. This shouldn't be a problem for you,
or would it?


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#37207

FromJonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>
Date2019-09-10 15:57 -0700
Message-ID<25a5b8c0-f54c-4ebc-979f-0498213a5550@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37206
Den onsdag 11 september 2019 kl. 00:52:28 UTC+2 skrev Arno Welzel:
> Jonas Thörnvall:
> 
> > I am a lucky idiot with 187 in IQ, that feel not quite happy with
> > analysing monkeys attempt at implementing object oriented languages,
> > because they have missed the point.
> 
> Then implement your own language. This shouldn't be a problem for you,
> or would it?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Arno Welzel
> https://arnowelzel.de

Nah i probably could make a scripting language like PHP or Python, it is getting support for it in webbrowsers that will be the hard part ;)

Script languages and texthandling and parsing is simple.

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#37220

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2019-09-11 10:15 +0200
Message-ID<gtrop3Fn3r1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37207
On 11.09.19 00:57, Jonas Thörnvall wrote:
> Den onsdag 11 september 2019 kl. 00:52:28 UTC+2 skrev Arno Welzel:
>> Jonas Thörnvall:
>> 
>>> I am a lucky idiot with 187 in IQ, that feel not quite happy
>>> with analysing monkeys attempt at implementing object oriented
>>> languages, because they have missed the point.
>> 
>> Then implement your own language. This shouldn't be a problem for
>> you, or would it?
>> 
>> 
>> -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
> 
> Nah i probably could make a scripting language like PHP or Python, it
> is getting support for it in webbrowsers that will be the hard part
> ;)

Nope. Just implement it using WebAssembly: <https://webassembly.org/>

Version 1.0 is supported by all major browsers and it should be fast
enough to implement a runtime intepreter for your own language.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#37199

FromJulio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
Date2019-09-10 12:43 -0700
Message-ID<f83adf3c-52d6-4053-bec4-8a79df42a634@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37178
On Monday, 9 September 2019 08:22:33 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall  wrote:

> It is fucking time you implement a insert or a subtext tag.

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

> <subinsert text="some.html"></subinsert>
> 
> WTF is the problem to get it done?

That you can't even search it up?  That are tons of solutions for
that problem, starting from the possibility of just writing some 50
lines of code to load a file via XHR, error handling included, up to
the several full-fledged templating systems.

Have fun,

Julio

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#37203

FromJonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>
Date2019-09-10 14:05 -0700
Message-ID<2271202b-72db-42ed-8f2c-7d120b4f88ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#37199
Den tisdag 10 september 2019 kl. 21:43:47 UTC+2 skrev Julio Di Egidio:
> On Monday, 9 September 2019 08:22:33 UTC+2, Jonas Thörnvall  wrote:
> 
> > It is fucking time you implement a insert or a subtext tag.
> 
> You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
> 
> > <subinsert text="some.html"></subinsert>
> > 
> > WTF is the problem to get it done?
> 
> That you can't even search it up?  That are tons of solutions for
> that problem, starting from the possibility of just writing some 50
> lines of code to load a file via XHR, error handling included, up to
> the several full-fledged templating systems.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Julio

And why do you think that should be necessary, what is the reason for me to produce thsoe 50 lines of code for a functionality that would be there to beging with?

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