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| Started by | Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> |
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| First post | 2016-09-23 13:42 +0100 |
| Last post | 2016-12-18 11:49 -0800 |
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TypeScript Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:42 +0100
Re: TypeScript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-09-24 10:36 +0200
Re: TypeScript Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-09-25 17:25 +0100
Re: TypeScript "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-12-17 14:05 -0800
Re: TypeScript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-18 01:04 +0100
Re: TypeScript Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-12-18 09:33 +0000
Re: TypeScript <anonymous@not.real> - 2016-12-18 14:39 +0000
Re: TypeScript Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-12-18 19:06 +0000
Re: TypeScript "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-12-18 11:49 -0800
| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-23 13:42 +0100 |
| Subject | TypeScript |
| Message-ID | <e9YO6R5rMS5XFwOp@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
Has there been anything about TypeScript in this newsgroup? See <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/typescript- microsofts-javascript-for-big-applications-reaches-version-2-0/>, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript>, <http://www.typescriptlang.org/>. -- (c) John Stockton, near London. Mail ?.?.Stockton@physics.org Web < > - FAQish topics, acronyms, and links.
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| From | "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-24 10:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA68D6BFADE8eejj99@194.109.6.166> |
| In reply to | #31438 |
Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote on 23 Sep 2016 in comp.lang.javascript: > Has there been anything about TypeScript in this newsgroup? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#! topicsearchin/comp.lang.javascript/typescript> > See <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/typescript- > microsofts-javascript-for-big-applications-reaches-version-2-0/>, > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript>, > <http://www.typescriptlang.org/>. and: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/typescript> TypeScript 2.0 <https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/wiki/What's-new-in-TypeScript> -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-25 17:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ibVhj2Ufp$5XFw7a@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31439 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA68D6BFADE8eejj99@194.109.6.166>, Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:36:53, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> posted: >Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote on 23 Sep 2016 >in comp.lang.javascript: > >> Has there been anything about TypeScript in this newsgroup? > ><https://groups.google.com/forum/#! >topicsearchin/comp.lang.javascript/typescript> Most of those are unrealistically old : I think many of the hits are finds of "type script". The obvious question is "Is the TypeScript system actually everywhere compliant with the ECMA-262 standards?". -- (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ¬@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Merlyn Web Site < > - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-17 14:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bf96a445-506f-49ea-96aa-cb2839df8efc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #31459 |
On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 4:58:47 PM UTC-5, Dr J R Stockton wrote: > In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA68D6BFADE8eejj99@194.109.6.166>, > Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:36:53, Evertjan. > posted: > > >Dr J R Stockton wrote on 23 Sep 2016 > >in comp.lang.javascript: > > > >> Has there been anything about TypeScript in this newsgroup? > > > ><https://groups.google.com/forum/#! > >topicsearchin/comp.lang.javascript/typescript> > > Most of those are unrealistically old : I think many of the hits are > finds of "type script". > > The obvious question is "Is the TypeScript system actually everywhere > compliant with the ECMA-262 standards?". Yes. TypeScript is a strict superset of ECMASCript
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-12-18 01:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2308268.tIAgqjz4sF@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #31889 |
Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote: > On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 4:58:47 PM UTC-5, Dr J R Stockton wrote: >> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA68D6BFADE8eejj99@194.109.6.166>, >> Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:36:53, Evertjan. >> posted: Good grief. Three lines of attribution. >> >Dr J R Stockton wrote on 23 Sep 2016 >> >in comp.lang.javascript: I repeat: It’s attribution _line_, not attribution novel. >> >> Has there been anything about TypeScript in this newsgroup? >> > >> ><https://groups.google.com/forum/#! >> >topicsearchin/comp.lang.javascript/typescript> >> >> Most of those are unrealistically old : I think many of the hits are >> finds of "type script". Enclosing the search term in double quotes excludes those hits. >> The obvious question is "Is the TypeScript system actually everywhere >> compliant with the ECMA-262 standards?". > > Yes. TypeScript is a strict superset of ECMASCript That is what Microsoft is saying (actually, they now say it is a “typed superset of JavaScript”) and Wikipedia is parroting. It is not necessarily true. Besides, it is not obvious that the correct answer to the question asked here is “Yes” even if TypeScript should turn out to be a conforming implementation of a *specific* Edition of ECMAScript (likely ECMAScript 2015). In fact, it is very likely that it is not a conforming implementation of *all* Editions of ECMAScript (“the ECMA-262 standards”). -- PointedEars FAQ: <http://PointedEars.de/faq> | <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix> <https://github.com/PointedEars> | <http://PointedEars.de/wsvn/> Twitter: @PointedEars2 | Please do not cc me./Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2016-12-18 09:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <181220160933261794%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #31892 |
In article <2308268.tIAgqjz4sF@PointedEars.de>, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote: > >> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 4:58:47 PM UTC-5, Dr J R Stockton wrote: >>> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA68D6BFADE8eejj99@194.109.6.166>, >>> Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:36:53, Evertjan. >>> posted: > >Good grief. Three lines of attribution. > >>> >Dr J R Stockton wrote on 23 Sep 2016 >>> >in comp.lang.javascript: > >I repeat: It’s attribution _line_, not attribution novel. This sort of shit emanating from you is why you get told, so often, to fuck off. -- Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison." Churchill: "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."
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| From | <anonymous@not.real> |
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| Date | 2016-12-18 14:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Icx5A.517008$zq4.330933@fx41.am4> |
| In reply to | #31893 |
On the the date 2016-12-18 at the time 09:33:26 in the group comp.lang.javascript the person indentified as Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> posted a message that has message id <181220160933261794%timstreater@greenbee.net> that contained the following text: > In article <2308268.tIAgqjz4sF@PointedEars.de>, Thomas 'PointedEars' > Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: > >>Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote: >> >>> On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 4:58:47 PM UTC-5, Dr J R Stockton wrote: >>>> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA68D6BFADE8eejj99@194.109.6.166>, >>>> Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:36:53, Evertjan. >>>> posted: >> >>Good grief. Three lines of attribution. >> >>>> >Dr J R Stockton wrote on 23 Sep 2016 >>>> >in comp.lang.javascript: >> >>I repeat: It’s attribution _line_, not attribution novel. > > This sort of shit emanating from you is why you get told, so often, to > fuck off. > Pointy Head is not the hero Usenet deserves, but he is the hero that Usenet needs right now.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2016-12-18 19:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <181220161906542936%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #31897 |
In article <Icx5A.517008$zq4.330933@fx41.am4>, <anonymous@not.real> wrote: >On the the date 2016-12-18 >at the time 09:33:26 >in the group comp.lang.javascript >the person indentified as Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> >posted a message that has message id ><181220160933261794%timstreater@greenbee.net> >that contained the following text: >Pointy Head is not the hero Usenet deserves, but he is the hero that Usenet >needs right now. ITYM: "the anti-hero that Usenet *has* right now" And how many times have I got to tell you: it's attribution *novel*, not attribution line. And Usenet rules state it has to be at least as long as War and Peace. Or Lord of the Rings (all 1200 pages of it). Or the complete short stories of H G Wells. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-18 11:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <08e6f376-b3e5-4c2e-a951-b452cb3a0d7e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #31892 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > That is what Microsoft is saying (actually, they now say it is a “typed superset of JavaScript”) and Wikipedia is parroting. It is not necessarily true. If only there was some way to measure this... Ah yes: <http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/> Also, this is out of date though (TS 1.8 listed, and TS 2.1 is current). Ticket: <https://github.com/kangax/compat-table/issues/919> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Besides, it is not obvious that the correct answer to the question asked > here is “Yes” even if TypeScript should turn out to be a conforming > implementation of a *specific* Edition of ECMAScript (likely ECMAScript > 2015). In fact, it is very likely that it is not a conforming > implementation of *all* Editions of ECMAScript (“the ECMA-262 standards”). What a foolish comment. Given that newer editions break backwards compatibility on purpose, it would be impossible and undesirable to be conformant to all specs simultaneously. TypeScript aims to support the latest version of the spec + extensions and then compile to legacy versions, but I suspect you knew this and just simply want to be contrarian
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