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| Started by | Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> |
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| First post | 2012-07-22 02:55 +0000 |
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Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2012-07-22 02:55 +0000
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2012-07-21 22:23 -0600
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-07-23 19:34 +0100
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2012-07-24 00:46 +0000
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2012-07-24 08:50 -0400
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2012-07-24 21:53 +0000
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-24 16:40 -0700
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. "Leonardo Azpurua" <leonardo@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-24 21:45 -0430
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2012-07-25 09:08 -0400
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-07-25 19:25 +0100
Re: Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-07-26 19:30 +0100
| From | Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> |
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| Date | 2012-07-22 02:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Function to create SVG "guage" graphics. |
| Message-ID | <XnsA097E92DFF469invalidcom@94.75.214.39> |
First, here is some background info. I wanted to develop a script to generate graphical "guages" similar to those found at: https://google- developers.appspot.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/gauge I decided not to use the Google app itself because in the past they have dropped support for their apps. (Translate API a few years back, and Google chart API during the coming year.) Also, I really do not like the idea of using apps with no source or obfuscated source. I did consider putting effort into improving one of the various public javascript "libraries", but I do not really like their generalistic approach. I just wanted a simple self-contained function with no external dependencies. Thus, I have written my own guage function. You can see sample (SVG) outputs here: http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/guagedemo.htm It is not really intended as a demo of all capabilities. It is instead a tool to test the various execution paths within the function. My questions are: 1) I do not feel good about using javacript object notation to define the argument list. (On the above page, you can see the source code for the argument object.) Is there a better way? 2) Is there anyone at all who is interested in using this? If so, I will make it easier to download, explicitly designate it as GPL, and perhaps add some internal comments. 3) Is there a need for further complicating the colors? Does anyone feel that it would be useful (for example), to say that you want 10 to 20 in red, 20 to 40 in red graduating to yellow, etc. ? BTW, I have re-done my astronomy page to use SVG instead of the Google Chart API. -- http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm
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| From | "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-21 22:23 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <a71disFb70U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15131 |
"Mike Duffy" <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> wrote in message news:XnsA097E92DFF469invalidcom@94.75.214.39... > First, here is some background info. I wanted to develop a script to > generate graphical "guages" similar to those found at: Whatsa 'gooahhj' :) (or did you mean a 'gayyyj) -Mel
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-07-23 19:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <CZb$P0IYkZDQFwzl@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #15131 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA097E92DFF469invalidcom@94.75.214.39 >, Sun, 22 Jul 2012 02:55:11, Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in. sig> posted: >First, here is some background info. I wanted to develop a script to >generate graphical "guages" similar to those found at: > >https://google- >developers.appspot.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/gauge Did you ever wonder why Google spells it "gauge" ? Coloured on black is nasty to read. >BTW, I have re-done my astronomy page to use SVG instead of the Google >Chart API. <http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/astro.htm> - see sig line 3. Coloured on black is nasty to read. Have an "is" for Note 3 sentence 2 word 2. "Kg" should be "kg". Fonts are often too small. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQqish topics, acronyms and links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc.
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| From | Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 00:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA099D3659CB3Binvalidcom@94.75.214.39> |
| In reply to | #15164 |
Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> wrote in news:CZb$P0IYkZDQFwzl@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid: > > Did you ever wonder why Google spells it "gauge" ? Hmmm. I'm never actually been diagnosed as dyslexic, but I really did not notice. Thanks for pointing it out. I will, however, let it stand for a few weeks considering that it is an "orphan" web page intended to be accessed solely from here. > Coloured on black is nasty to read. I avoid using dark text colours. I have never noticed any problem except when using fully-saturated blue, green, or violet on a black background. But perhaps I am putting too much stock in my own judgement. (See the response below to your last point.) > ... Have an "is" for Note 3 sentence 2 word 2. "Kg" should be "kg". Corrected. Corrected. (Thanks). > Fonts are often too small. I will adjust the defaults to be larger. (I often get this sort of comment from people at work after I have set up their computer.) Are you speaking here about the entire web-site, or just the astronomy page? Upon reflection, the orrery does use a font size much too small. Leaving aside the fonts and colours, do you have any opinion on the "guages" themselves? -- http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm
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| From | Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 08:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ob6t0816oj5ba21pkgo3vchfsg8226il4q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #15166 |
Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> wrote: >I avoid using dark text colours. I have never noticed any problem except >when using fully-saturated blue, green, or violet on a black background. Red text on black background is unreadable. Yes I'm (red-green) color-blind, as are 10% or so of males (the malfunctioning gene is on the Y chromosome, so women have a far better chance of getting a good one.) Red on gray is even worse. -- Tim Slattery Slattery_T@bls.gov
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| From | Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 21:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA09AB606F4FA6invalidcom@94.75.214.39> |
| In reply to | #15170 |
Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in news:ob6t0816oj5ba21pkgo3vchfsg8226il4q@4ax.com: > Yes I'm (red-green) color-blind, as are 10% or so of males (the > malfunctioning gene is on the Y chromosome, so women have a far better > chance of getting a good one.) Red on gray is even worse. I must admit that did not consider that. Again, (as with font sizes), I have been guilty of using my own judgement when upon reflection is not a good idea. (In high school, I was able to read micro-fiche without using the viewer.) It should be easy to modify the web-site to address the issues you & Dr. S. raised because I use a master CSS to style everything. I am sure that if I look around, I can find some guidelines regarding a good choice of colours to accomodate people with this condition. BTW, the gene coding for the most common form of colour-blindness is on the X chromosome. Women have the condition too, but at a much smaller incidence rate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness -- http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm
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| From | Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 16:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ccu0810scvjb3121tievu2dl00tcph4ab@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #15182 |
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:53:30 +0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
<Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> wrote:
>Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in
>news:ob6t0816oj5ba21pkgo3vchfsg8226il4q@4ax.com:
>
>
>> Yes I'm (red-green) color-blind, as are 10% or so of males (the
>> malfunctioning gene is on the Y chromosome, so women have a far better
>> chance of getting a good one.) Red on gray is even worse.
>
>I must admit that did not consider that. Again, (as with font sizes), I
>have been guilty of using my own judgement when upon reflection is not a
>good idea. (In high school, I was able to read micro-fiche without using
>the viewer.)
One place where I have seen it violated nastily is resumes. You
are young and the world is your oyster unless the older guy trying to
read your resume can not read it. I suggest 12 point, 11 at lowest.
>It should be easy to modify the web-site to address the issues you & Dr.
>S. raised because I use a master CSS to style everything.
>
>I am sure that if I look around, I can find some guidelines regarding a
>good choice of colours to accomodate people with this condition.
>
>BTW, the gene coding for the most common form of colour-blindness is on
>the X chromosome. Women have the condition too, but at a much smaller
>incidence rate.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
It is recessive. Females have to get two colour-blindness genes
to have the condition express. With males, if you have one, you have
it.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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| From | "Leonardo Azpurua" <leonardo@exmvps.org> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 21:45 -0430 |
| Message-ID | <junkl8$4dr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15182 |
"Mike Duffy" <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> escribió en el mensaje news:XnsA09AB606F4FA6invalidcom@94.75.214.39... > I am sure that if I look around, I can find some guidelines regarding a > good choice of colours to accomodate people with this condition. In case of doubt, use black on white. --
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| From | Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 09:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uqrv085miponotmf219fd1h7ujjcp7aqpj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #15182 |
Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> wrote: >BTW, the gene coding for the most common form of colour-blindness is on >the X chromosome. Women have the condition too, but at a much smaller >incidence rate. Right, I grabbed the wrong letter. Women have two X's, therefore have two chances to get a working copy of the gene. men have only one shot at it, no backup. That's the same reason that women carry hemophilia but men get it. It's the X chromosome. -- Tim Slattery Slattery_T@bls.gov
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 19:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mgSmRWGioDEQFwsL@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #15166 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA099D3659CB3Binvalidcom@94.75.214.39
>, Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:46:49, Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.
sig> posted:
>Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> wrote in
>news:CZb$P0IYkZDQFwzl@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid:
>
>>
>> Did you ever wonder why Google spells it "gauge" ?
>
>Hmmm. I'm never actually been diagnosed as dyslexic, but I really did
>not notice. Thanks for pointing it out. I will, however, let it stand
>for a few weeks considering that it is an "orphan" web page intended to
>be accessed solely from here.
It's a word I always have to think about in crosswords.
>> Coloured on black is nasty to read.
>
>I avoid using dark text colours. I have never noticed any problem except
>when using fully-saturated blue, green, or violet on a black background.
>
>But perhaps I am putting too much stock in my own judgement. (See the
>response below to your last point.)
For the ordinary informative text on a site, you should leave the font
face and size as the user has, or ought to have, chosen it. I
personally assume that the users will be happy with black text on a
near-white background.
For non-bulk text, I see no objection to the 120% that you may be using.
>Are you speaking here about the entire web-site, or just the astronomy
>page? Upon reflection, the orrery does use a font size much too small.
>
>Leaving aside the fonts and colours, do you have any opinion on the
>"guages" themselves?
I have no need for them. If I had, I would use something simpler -
generally a horizontal thermometer, which needs much less code.
I remember seeing gauges something like yours in Kapitsa's lab
in Moscow. One could tell which were important because those
had add-on labelling in Russian - the gauges themselves were
all British, like the whole set-up.
--
(c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike 6.05 WinXP.
Web <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQ-type topics, acronyms, and links.
Command-prompt MiniTrue is useful for viewing/searching/altering files. Free,
DOS/Win/UNIX now 2.0.6; see <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pc-links.htm>.
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1230@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-07-26 19:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <KLedbJFRzYEQFw7p@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #15131 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA097E92DFF469invalidcom@94.75.214.39 >, Sun, 22 Jul 2012 02:55:11, Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in. sig> posted: > >http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/guagedemo.htm > Another thing to think seriously about is the possible effects of the very useful Zoom Text Only in Firefox and Safari. I almost always, when reading, use a few steps of ZTO, since I'm more interested in the text than in the images. Your gauges do not then zoom, being classed as images. But they contain important numeric text. If an image is sized by CSS in ex or em units, it zooms like text with ZTO. Perhaps you can give your code the choice. <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/www-use1.htm#ZTO> refers. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05. Website <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.
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