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  Why so many drug posts? Walter Milner <w.w.milner@gmail.com> - 2014-03-08 08:45 -0800
    Re: Why so many drug posts? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-08 17:28 +0000
    Re: Why so many drug posts? Walter Milner <w.w.milner@gmail.com> - 2014-03-08 09:47 -0800
      Re: Why so many drug posts? Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2014-03-08 20:30 +0200
      Re: Why so many drug posts? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-08 18:39 +0000
      Re: Why so many drug posts? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-03-08 20:17 +0100
    Re: Why so many drug posts? "Chris M. Thomasson" <no@spam.invalid> - 2014-03-08 14:47 -0800
    Re: Why so many drug posts? Peter Gruber <jippijappo@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-08 14:55 -0800
      Re: Why so many drug posts? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-03-09 00:48 +0100
    Re: Why so many drug posts? Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-09 08:54 +0800
      Re: Why so many drug posts? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-03-09 08:58 +0100
    Re: Why so many drug posts? mentificium@gmail.com - 2014-03-09 08:05 -0700
      Re: Why so many drug posts? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-03-09 18:04 +0100
    Re: Why so many drug posts? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 04:41 +0000
      OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> - 2014-06-23 11:24 -0400
        Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-23 17:25 +0100
        Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-06-24 12:26 +0200
          Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> - 2014-06-24 14:13 -0400
            [OT] Dealing with newsgroup spam (was: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-06-24 21:05 +0200
              Re: [OT] Dealing with newsgroup spam Mike Duffy <md_002@videotron.ca> - 2014-06-24 16:57 -0400
                Re: [OT] Dealing with newsgroup spam Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-06-24 23:42 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Dealing with newsgroup spam Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2014-06-25 11:19 +0300
          Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-06-25 15:25 +0100
        Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2014-06-24 06:46 -0700
        Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts? Qruqs <qruqs@visit.community.page.invalid> - 2014-06-25 15:45 +0000

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#23457 — Why so many drug posts?

Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.

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#23458

In article <91d60f1f-c983-4774-876c-6c9b912e655f@googlegroups.com>,
Walter Milner <w.w.milner@gmail.com> wrote:

> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this
> group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.

I don't see any. Perhaps you should get a better News provider.

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"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#23459

On Saturday, 8 March 2014 16:45:31 UTC, Walter Milner  wrote:
> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.

So how come I see them on Google Groups and others don't?

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#23460

Walter Milner <w.w.milner@gmail.com> writes:
> On Saturday, 8 March 2014 16:45:31 UTC, Walter Milner  wrote:

>> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this
>> group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.

> So how come I see them on Google Groups and others don't?
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You answered your own question..

-- 
Jukka Lahtinen

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#23461

In article <7bbaa556-7b6a-4864-af83-863f4dca75ae@googlegroups.com>,
Walter Milner <w.w.milner@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 8 March 2014 16:45:31 UTC, Walter Milner  wrote:
> > Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this
> > group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.
> 
> So how come I see them on Google Groups and others don't?

It's God's punishment for using Google Groups. Think yourself lucky -
you might have been sent to one of the Punishment Planets.

-- 
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a
friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill. "Cannot possibly
attend first night, will attend second...  if there is one." - Winston
Churchill, in response.

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#23463

Walter Milner wrote:

> On Saturday, 8 March 2014 16:45:31 UTC, Walter Milner  wrote:
>> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this
>> group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.
> 
> So how come I see them on Google Groups and others don't?

Ask Google.  Ask them why they do not care about spammers, and why they do 
not finally fix their Web-to-NetNews interface, while you are at it.

Contrary to what you may think, this is neither a Google Groups group nor is 
it Google Groups support.  It also is not a Web forum.  It is a newsgroup in 
Usenet which has very little to do with Google Groups.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> gives the basic facts, although some 
misconceptions, like that Usenet would require the Internet, are contained.

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#23465

> "Walter Milner"  wrote in message 
> news:91d60f1f-c983-4774-876c-6c9b912e655f@googlegroups.com...
> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs.
> Does no-one moderate this group?
> Do you want some help?
> Its completely polluted at the moment.

Humm... Perhaps it has something to do with soothing
the headaches that are afflicting some of the as$hole's
that try to decipher compressed JavaScript in an effort
to steal implementations of original ideas without giving
any credit to the original creator(s)!

;^) 

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#23466

kl. 17:45:31 UTC+1 lørdag 8. mars 2014 skrev Walter Milner følgende:
> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.

Marking messages as spam has no\very little effect.
Its better to abandon this part of google groups and go to a monitored one, like this:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/javascript-information
instead.

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#23469

Peter Gruber wrote:

> kl. 17:45:31 UTC+1 lørdag 8. mars 2014 skrev Walter Milner følgende:
>> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this
>> group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.
> 
> Marking messages as spam has no\very little effect.

Also, basic newsreader features like Crosspost and Followup-To do not appear 
to be available in Google Groups anymore.  Line-breaking is borken as well.

> Its better to abandon this part of google groups

Again, this Usenet newsgroup is _not_ part of Google Groups.  It is only 
mirrored there, and poorly at that.

> and go to a monitored one, like this:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/javascript-information instead.

… if you prefer to be led by the blind.

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#23470

On 3/9/2014 12:45 AM, Walter Milner wrote:
> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment.
>
Yeah, I read 1/2 doz newsgroups with FireBird via aeiou.org (or whatever 
that free one's called) and Javascript is the only one theses posts show 
up in.

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#23472

Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote on 09 mrt 2014 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

> On 3/9/2014 12:45 AM, Walter Milner wrote:
>> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. Does no-one moderate this
>> group? Do you want some help? Its completely polluted at the moment. 
>>
> Yeah, I read 1/2 doz newsgroups with FireBird via aeiou.org (or whatever
> that free one's called) and Javascript is the only one theses posts show
> up in.

Having a personal filter against most googlegroups originated content for 
this NG in my XNEWS usenet reader, I have not seen these postings for years 
now. 

Only the displayed number of postings to be downloaded and number of 
postings actually shown differs from time to time, hinting at the filter 
still being usefull indeed.



-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
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#23477

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:45:31 AM UTC-8, Walter Milner wrote:
> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs. 
> Does no-one moderate this group? 
> Do you want some help? 
> Its completely polluted at the moment.

Whatever you post here you should also post at 

http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript

so that those of us in the JavaScript AI Underground 
can also read it. We are especially interested in 
using JavaScript to create prototype AI Minds for 
re-implementation in Forth and other languages 
for the animation of autonomous mobile robots. 

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http://www.nlg-wiki.org/systems/Mind 

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#23484

mentificium@gmail.com wrote on 09 mrt 2014 in comp.lang.javascript:

> Whatever you post here you should also post at 
> 
> http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript
> 
> so that those of us in the JavaScript AI Underground 
> can also read it.

What nonsense.

If they want to read the NG, they can read the NG.


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The Netherlands.
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#24674

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 08:45:31 -0800, Walter Milner wrote:

> Most of the posts here are adverts for drugs.

That's because wanker spammers see "script" in the group title and assume 
it's talking about prescriptions.

But I very rarely see any such posts, probably because I read this 
newsgroup in a proper newsreader that I have taught over time to ignore 
posts with various pharmaceutical names in the titles.

Perhaps you should do the same.

-- 
Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com

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#24965 — OT - Re: Why so many drug posts?

On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 04:41:44 +0000 (UTC), Denis McMahon wrote:

> ... wanker spammers see "script" in the group title

This does not explain Armani, Gucci, Nike, Air Jordan, and a few others.


> I very rarely see any such posts, probably because I read this 
> newsgroup in a proper newsreader that I have taught over time

I recently re-installed Windows, and as usual, forgot to back up my
(40tude) kill file. Here it the section relating to this group. Perhaps
newcomers might find it useful, or I can find it again the next time I
re-install Windows:

PS: Does anyone know why sugar (and taffy and chocolate) are mixed with the
meds? Sometimes I mix meds with cheese for my dog, but sugar for humans is
a placebo. Thus I cannot imagine why someone would knowingly order medical
grade sugar. I assume that diabetes instrumentation calibration would be
specified using instead the term "glucose".

!delete From "mentifex@myuw.net"

!delete Subject "Air Jordan"
!delete Subject "Armani"
!delete Subject "Casino"
!delete Subject "Gucci"
!delete Subject "Nike"
!delete Subject "Nude"
!delete Subject "Sex Tape"
!delete Subject "Solutions Manuals"
!delete Subject "Test Banks"
!delete Subject "Wholesale"

!delete Subject "Aciphex"
!delete Subject "Acyclovir"
!delete Subject "Adderall"
!delete Subject "Adipex"
!delete Subject "Aldactone"
!delete Subject "Alprazolam"
!delete Subject "Ambien"
!delete Subject "Amoxicillin"
!delete Subject "Amoxil"
!delete Subject "Atrovent"
!delete Subject "Ativan"
!delete Subject "Baclofen"
!delete Subject "Buspar"
!delete Subject "Captopril"
!delete Subject "Carisoprodol"
!delete Subject "Celebrex"
!delete Subject "Chocolate"
!delete Subject "Cialis"
!delete Subject "Cipro"
!delete Subject "Clomid"
!delete Subject "Clomiphene"
!delete Subject "Clonazepam"
!delete Subject "Codein"
!delete Subject "Codeine"
!delete Subject "Dapoxetine"
!delete Subject "Darvocet"
!delete Subject "Diazepam"
!delete Subject "Didrex"
!delete Subject "Diflucan"
!delete Subject "Doctor"
!delete Subject "Doxycycline"
!delete Subject "Effexor"
!delete Subject "Epilepsy"
!delete Subject "Esgic"
!delete Subject "Famvir"
!delete Subject "Fedex"
!delete Subject "Fioricet"
!delete Subject "Flexeril"
!delete Subject "Fluoxetine"
!delete Subject "Fosamax"
!delete Subject "Hydrocodone"
!delete Subject "Imitrex"
!delete Subject "Ketamine"
!delete Subject "Khat"
!delete Subject "Klonopin"
!delete Subject "Lamisil"
!delete Subject "Levitra"
!delete Subject "Lexapro"
!delete Subject "Lipitor"
!delete Subject "Lisinopril"
!delete Subject "Lortab"
!delete Subject "Lunesta"
!delete Subject "Medication"
!delete Subject "Meridia"
!delete Subject "Metformin"
!delete Subject "Meth"
!delete Subject "Methadone"
!delete Subject "Nasonex"
!delete Subject "Neurontin"
!delete Subject "Nexium"
!delete Subject "Nolvadex"
!delete Subject "Norco"
!delete Subject "Norvasc"
!delete Subject "Opiates"
!delete Subject "Oxycodone"
!delete Subject "Phentermine"
!delete Subject "Prednisone"
!delete Subject "Premarin"
!delete Subject "Prescription"
!delete Subject "Prescriptions"
!delete Subject "Prevacid"
!delete Subject "Propecia"
!delete Subject "Proscar"
!delete Subject "Raloxifene"
!delete Subject "Retin-A"
!delete Subject "Risperidone"
!delete Subject "Ritalin"
!delete Subject "Sildenafil"
!delete Subject "Skelaxin"
!delete Subject "Soma"
!delete Subject "Steroids"
!delete Subject "Strattera"
!delete Subject "Sugar"
!delete Subject "Sumycin"
!delete Subject "Tablets"
!delete Subject "Tadalafil"
!delete Subject "Taffy"
!delete Subject "Tamoxifen"
!delete Subject "Tenuate"
!delete Subject "Tramadol"
!delete Subject "Ultracet"
!delete Subject "Ultram"
!delete Subject "Valium"
!delete Subject "Valtrex"
!delete Subject "Vardenafil"
!delete Subject "Vasotec"
!delete Subject "Viagra"
!delete Subject "Vicodin"
!delete Subject "Xanax"
!delete Subject "Xenical"
!delete Subject "Zithromax"
!delete Subject "Zoloft"
!delete Subject "Zolpidem"
!delete Subject "Zovirax"

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#24975 — Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts?

In article <x9pwqnc1yyv7.1b2idv6y3i04u$.dlg@40tude.net>, Mike Duffy
<md_002@videotron.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 04:41:44 +0000 (UTC), Denis McMahon wrote:
> 
> > ... wanker spammers see "script" in the group title
> 
> This does not explain Armani, Gucci, Nike, Air Jordan, and a few others.
> 
> > I very rarely see any such posts, probably because I read this 
> > newsgroup in a proper newsreader that I have taught over time
> 
> I recently re-installed Windows, and as usual, forgot to back up my
> (40tude) kill file. Here it the section relating to this group. Perhaps
> newcomers might find it useful, or I can find it again the next time I
> re-install Windows:

No spam at all here. Perhaps you should consider changing news provider.

-- 
"Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of
those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf

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#24994 — Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts?

Since we are off-topic already, and I think this subject is more important 
than some might think at first, allow me a larger off-topic comment on it.

Mike Duffy wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 04:41:44 +0000 (UTC), Denis McMahon wrote:
>> ... wanker spammers see "script" in the group title
> 
> This does not explain Armani, Gucci, Nike, Air Jordan, and a few others.

I am not in the spammer-hunting and certainly not in the spamming business, 
but I think the reason is very simple: Spammers will spam whereever and in 
any way they can as long as it pays for them.  On the expenses side, 
Web/Usenet spam costs them virtually nothing.  On the revenue side, they are 
probably paid by the number of effective spam messages they can emit.  A 
spam message would be considered effective by their clients if it is likely 
to reach a large audience.

comp.lang.javascript is, compared to other newsgroups, still a high-traffic 
newsgroup (even with filter – see below –, I count 701 postings in the last 
7 months, that is, ca. 3 postings per day).  Also, ECMAScript 
implementations (“[Jj]ava[Ss]cript” in their lingo) are everywhere, it is a 
growing market, so probably the expectation is that there are many readers.  

There is also the possibility that they do not care where they spam.

There is another, more disturbing possibility: Spammers could pay Google for 
allowing them to spam via Google Groups.  After all, it has become Google’s 
business model to get paid for placing advertisements on the Web.
 
>> I very rarely see any such posts, probably because I read this
>> newsgroup in a proper newsreader that I have taught over time
> 
> I recently re-installed Windows, 

Do you do this often?

> and as usual, forgot to back up my (40tude) kill file. Here it the section
> relating to this group. Perhaps newcomers might find it useful, or I can
> find it again the next time I re-install Windows:
> […] 
> !delete From "mentifex@myuw.net"
> 
> !delete Subject "Air Jordan"
> […]
> !delete Subject "Zovirax"

If you compare the matches for those rules with postings injected at Google 
Groups, you will find that *all* of this spam was injected at Google 
Groups.  It is not a coincidence that the OP who was complaining about spam 
(cluelessly, in the wrong place) was a Google Grouper.

Google has managed to turn the prized DejaNews Usenet archive into a second 
AOHell¹.  Users are not made aware that they are posting to a Usenet 
newsgroup.  For example, comp.lang.javascript is displayed as if it were any 
other Google Groups group.  You cannot search by Message-ID anymore unless 
you know the original newsgroup(s), and even then you need to be lucky.  All 
messages are distributed from Google Groups to other newsservers, but 
control messages are not observed by Google Groups.  Messages can be deleted 
from Google Groups without emitting a Cancel message to other newsservers; 
they are deleted from Google Groups automatically after a while without 
emitting a Cancel message with certain header fields or content.  The 
possibility for using a fixed-width font for display is gone except for 
source view (“Original message”), and people are encouraged to “Express 
[themselves]: Use rich-text editing to customize your posts with fonts, 
colors, and images.”[1].  Lines are not wrapped at 80 columns at the latest, 
nor are users notified of that convention when they post to a Usenet 
newsgroup.  Not even the most basic Usenet features, like Followup-To, are 
observed anymore by the interface, so that once a crossposting has started, 
the discussion has to stop on Google Groups for the mindless crossposting to 
end.

With the new version of Google Groups at the latest, Google has effectively 
separated itself from the ideas and ideals of Network News and Usenet.  They 
are obviously not thinking in terms of freely distributed messages where the 
community decides what they find worth to discuss about, create and 
distribute newsgroups for it, and everyone can have voice their opinion; 
their idea of online discussion is that everyone has their own "group" 
(notice that “news” disappeared) and decides which opinions are worth to be 
published in it and which are not.  And that, again, Google controls 
everything.

Their spam-handling fits this pattern: Spam is never deleted from Google 
Groups; spam messages are not admin-canceled; spammers’ accounts are not 
closed even after intense complaints/marking.  “This topic has been *hidden* 
because it has been flagged for abuse.”  So the spam message with Subject 
”Hydrocodone” is hidden, but all previous ones, by the same poster, are not?  
Their *GMail* account continues to exist undisabled?  Google, not the user, 
decides what is spam deserving to be hidden (only on Google Groups, of 
course), and what is not.

All that is endorsing censorship, not free speech; monopoly, not diversity.  
Google takes everything from Network News, but does not return anything.  It 
is fairly obvious to me now that Google is just waiting for Network News to  
go the way of the dinosaur, and for Google Groups to take over; that they 
would not do anything to prevent that, and that they may silently support 
it.  But it is not going to happen.

So, here’s a better idea, much easier to implement: Killfile/UDP Google 
Groups so that, hopefully but unlikely, either their users or they come to 
their senses.

<http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/> WFM.

BTW, I have already said that three months ago, when this thread was 
started.  This shows two things: 1. The situation with Google Groups has not 
improved and it is unlikely to improve in the future.  2. You two are a bit 
late to the party.

__________
¹ see “the September that never ended”

[1] <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview>
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#25007 — Re: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts?

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:26:21 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> Since we are off-topic already, and I think this subject is more important 
> than some might think at first, allow me a larger off-topic comment on it.

True. I read your comments below. Letting Google control Internet content
is not simply a CLJ problem.


>> I recently re-installed Windows, 
> 
> Do you do this often?

At least yearly. The next time, I might make the jump to Linux.

 
> Google has managed to turn the prized DejaNews Usenet archive into a second 
> AOHell¹.  
> ...
> With the new version of Google Groups at the latest, Google has effectively 
> separated itself from the ideas and ideals of Network News and Usenet.
> ...
> All that is endorsing censorship, not free speech; monopoly, not diversity.  
> Google takes everything from Network News, but does not return anything. 

Agree.


> So, here’s a better idea, much easier to implement: Killfile/UDP Google 
> Groups so that, hopefully but unlikely, either their users or they come to 
> their senses.

Do you not care about those who are unable (by local software install
policy, hardware restrictions, etc.) to use proper NNTP clients?

An any case, the following entries failed (40tude):

!delete Complaints-To "groups-abuse@google.com"
!delete User-Agent "G2/1.0"
!delete Injection-Info "glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com;"

I can do regeps only with "From", "Subject", and a few others.


> BTW, I have already said that three months ago, when this thread was 
> started.  This shows ... You two are a bit late to the party.

When I re-installed Windows, I re-configured my NNTP client by hand. It was
during my re-build of the medication list that I noticed this post, and
decided to followup even if it was a few months old.

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#25009 — [OT] Dealing with newsgroup spam (was: OT - Re: Why so many drug posts?)

Mike Duffy wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:26:21 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> I recently re-installed Windows,
>> Do you do this often?
> 
> At least yearly. The next time, I might make the jump to Linux.

Good idea.  The last time I have sort-of re-installed this Debian GNU/Linux 
system was in 2009, and that was only because I bought a new laptop to which 
I migrated the previous data.  Most certainly there will not be another 
reason for me to re-install the OS.

>> So, here’s a better idea, much easier to implement: Killfile/UDP Google
>> Groups so that, hopefully but unlikely, either their users or they come
>> to their senses.
> 
> Do you not care about those who are unable (by local software install
> policy, hardware restrictions, etc.) to use proper NNTP clients?

No, because I do not think there are such people.  It is one major advantage 
of Network News to be asynchronous.  You do not have to post from the work 
office where network access may be limited; if you have a job, you surely 
can afford some kind of Internet access at home.  OTOH, if you think Usenet 
access with a newsreader is important for your work and you need it while 
working, why would you not get it if you asked your superior?

And what possible hardware restrictions could there be?  Usenet predates 
Google and the Web.

> An any case, the following entries failed (40tude):
> 
> !delete Complaints-To "groups-abuse@google.com"
> !delete User-Agent "G2/1.0"
> !delete Injection-Info "glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com;"

The Usenet Improvement Project has the filter rules that work.
 
> I can do regeps only with "From", "Subject", and a few others.

The development of 40tude Dialog has been terminated in 2005, so it is using 
versions of libraries that are interspersed with security vulnerabilities.  
It is about time to switch to another newsreader now, with the added benefit 
of better filtering capabilities.

>> BTW, I have already said that three months ago, when this thread was
>> started.  This shows […] You two are a bit late to the party.
> 
> When I re-installed Windows, I re-configured my NNTP client by hand. It
> was during my re-build of the medication list that I noticed this post,
> and decided to followup even if it was a few months old.

ACK.

Please mark omissions not merely with ellipsis, but with ellipsis in 
brackets to avoid misunderstandings.  See above.
 
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#25011 — Re: [OT] Dealing with newsgroup spam

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:05:57 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> And what possible hardware restrictions could there be? 

Web-TV and tablets and smartphones usually do not have an NNTP client.

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