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Why is this returning NaN

Started by"Tony" <tony.johansson@inport.com>
First post2013-02-26 11:54 +0100
Last post2013-02-28 09:19 +0100
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  Why is this returning NaN "Tony" <tony.johansson@inport.com> - 2013-02-26 11:54 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-26 12:09 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-26 13:45 +0200
      Re: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 00:45 -0300
        Re: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 01:13 -0300
          Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 12:48 +0100
        Re: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-01 10:06 +0100
        Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 12:46 +0100
          Re: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-01 14:19 +0000
          Re: Why is this returning NaN "Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)" <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 12:01 -0300
            Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 21:03 +0100
              Re: Why is this returning NaN "Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)" <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 18:25 -0300
                Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 22:35 +0100
                  Re: Why is this returning NaN Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-03-01 20:31 -0800
                    Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-02 12:49 +0100
                    Re: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-03 12:32 -0300
                      Re: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-03 18:03 +0100
                        Re: Why is this returning NaN Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-03-03 10:16 -0700
                        OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-03-03 20:35 +0100
                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-03-03 21:43 +0200
                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-03 19:45 +0000
                          "javascript" (was: OT: "javascript") Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-03 21:09 +0100
                            Re: "javascript" "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-03 23:19 -0300
                              Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-04 11:27 +0100
                              Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-04 13:09 +0000
                                Re: "javascript" Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-03-10 20:50 +0100
                                  Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 20:29 +0000
                                    Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-10 23:23 +0100
                                      Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 22:48 +0000
                                        Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-10 23:53 +0100
                                          Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 23:23 +0000
                                            Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-11 02:57 +0100
                                              Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-11 08:55 +0000
                                                Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-11 17:38 +0100
                                              Re: "javascript" Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-12 19:29 +0000
                                                Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-13 14:36 +1100
                                                  Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-13 15:20 +0000
                                                    Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-14 11:18 +1100
                                                      Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-14 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-15 07:02 +1100
                                                          Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-15 10:28 +0000
                                                            Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-16 07:17 +1100
                                                              Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-16 12:04 +0000
                                                                Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-17 08:17 +1100
                                                                  Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-17 11:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-17 23:15 +1100
                                                                      Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-17 16:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-18 07:47 +1100
                                                                          Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-18 15:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-19 07:34 +1100
                                                                              Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-19 15:04 +0000
                                                                                Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-20 07:40 +1100
                                                Re: "javascript" Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> - 2013-03-13 12:03 +0000
                                                  Re: "javascript" Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-14 21:22 +0000
                                                    Re: "javascript" Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> - 2013-03-15 01:44 +0000
                                                      Re: "javascript" Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-16 19:42 +0000
                                                        Re: "javascript" Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> - 2013-03-17 18:25 +0000
                                                          Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-17 19:01 +0000
                                                    Re: "javascript" Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-03-15 10:55 -0700
                                            Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-13 15:21 +0000
                            Re: "javascript" (was: OT: "javascript") Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-04 13:07 +0000
                            Re: "javascript" Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-03-10 20:34 +0100
                              Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 19:39 +0000
                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-03 22:41 -0300
                            Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-04 09:57 +0100
                            Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-04 11:25 +0100
                            Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-04 14:52 +0000
                              Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-10 01:02 +0100
                                Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-10 10:52 +0000
                                  Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-10 12:44 +0100
                                    Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-10 17:49 +0000
                                      Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-20 01:21 +0100
                                        Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-20 15:25 +0000
                                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-30 01:28 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-02-26 12:00 +0000
      Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-26 18:07 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-02-26 13:42 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-27 20:43 +0000
      Re: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-02-28 09:19 +0100

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#18906 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-15 10:28 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<80MNO5EdfvQRFwqW@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18895
In message <7c2dnZICi_97sd_MnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:
>On 14/03/2013 9:43 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>> In message <NYmdnbWsCvDvitzMnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>> Poulos wrote:
>>> On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>>
>>    <snip>
>>>> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>>>> science.
>>>>
>>>> What about yours?
>>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> PE stated a fact
>>    <snip>
>>
>> I very much doubt it. Thomas behaves as though taught by the proverbial
>> martinet of a German Professor. He would have failed if he didn't write
>> down the *professor's* opinions in the exams.
>
>Why do you doubt that he has a degree?

Why do you think that having a degree guarantees that it was Thomas's
"foolish opinions" that earned it ?

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#18908 — Re: "javascript"

FromAndrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com>
Date2013-03-16 07:17 +1100
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<1fednY7Qk99tHN7MnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#18906
On 15/03/2013 9:28 PM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <7c2dnZICi_97sd_MnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 14/03/2013 9:43 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>> In message <NYmdnbWsCvDvitzMnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>> On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>
>>>     <snip>
>>>>> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>>>>> science.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about yours?
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> PE stated a fact
>>>     <snip>
>>>
>>> I very much doubt it. Thomas behaves as though taught by the proverbial
>>> martinet of a German Professor. He would have failed if he didn't write
>>> down the *professor's* opinions in the exams.
>>
>> Why do you doubt that he has a degree?
>
> Why do you think that having a degree guarantees that it was Thomas's
> "foolish opinions" that earned it ?

So you're arguing that PE could not have earned a degree due to his own 
opinion's (something neither of us can prove or disprove) yet you 
support JRS' comment that quality of a person's  understanding of a 
topic is directly related to the "rating" of the institution they 
attended. Bully for you!

Andrew Poulos

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#18912 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-16 12:04 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<kih6sVDT$FRRFwB8@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18908
In message <1fednY7Qk99tHN7MnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew 
Poulos wrote:
>On 15/03/2013 9:28 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>> In message <7c2dnZICi_97sd_MnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>> Poulos wrote:
>>> On 14/03/2013 9:43 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>> In message <NYmdnbWsCvDvitzMnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>>> On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     <snip>
>>>>>> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>>>>>> science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about yours?
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> PE stated a fact
>>>>     <snip>
>>>>
>>>> I very much doubt it. Thomas behaves as though taught by the proverbial
>>>> martinet of a German Professor. He would have failed if he didn't write
>>>> down the *professor's* opinions in the exams.
>>>
>>> Why do you doubt that he has a degree?
>>
>> Why do you think that having a degree guarantees that it was Thomas's
>> "foolish opinions" that earned it ?
>
>So you're arguing that PE could not have earned a degree due to his own 
>opinion's (something neither of us can prove or disprove)

Precisely. My argument is that Thomas himself would never give a pass 
mark to a student who disagreed with him, and I think it highly likely 
that this is because he was a student in that kind of environment.


>yet you support JRS' comment that quality of a person's  understanding 
>of a topic is directly related to the "rating" of the institution they 
>attended. Bully for you!

You know, your responses in this sub-thread are becoming increasingly 
irrational. How on earth do you deduce that from what I've written ?

   John
-- 
John Harris

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#18913 — Re: "javascript"

FromAndrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com>
Date2013-03-17 08:17 +1100
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#18912
On 16/03/2013 11:04 PM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <1fednY7Qk99tHN7MnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 15/03/2013 9:28 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>> In message <7c2dnZICi_97sd_MnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>> On 14/03/2013 9:43 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>>> In message <NYmdnbWsCvDvitzMnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     <snip>
>>>>>>> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in
>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>> science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about yours?
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PE stated a fact
>>>>>     <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> I very much doubt it. Thomas behaves as though taught by the
>>>>> proverbial
>>>>> martinet of a German Professor. He would have failed if he didn't
>>>>> write
>>>>> down the *professor's* opinions in the exams.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you doubt that he has a degree?
>>>
>>> Why do you think that having a degree guarantees that it was Thomas's
>>> "foolish opinions" that earned it ?
>>
>> So you're arguing that PE could not have earned a degree due to his
>> own opinion's (something neither of us can prove or disprove)
>
> Precisely. My argument is that Thomas himself would never give a pass
> mark to a student who disagreed with him, and I think it highly likely
> that this is because he was a student in that kind of environment.
>
>
>> yet you support JRS' comment that quality of a person's  understanding
>> of a topic is directly related to the "rating" of the institution they
>> attended. Bully for you!
>
> You know, your responses in this sub-thread are becoming increasingly
> irrational. How on earth do you deduce that from what I've written ?

I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you 
position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative 
clipping of posts) so I give up. Your view is 100% correct - I can find 
no fault whatsoever - move forward with confidence in your beliefs.

Andrew Poulos

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#18918 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-17 11:13 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<sxrHDoCJVaRRFwxq@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18913
In message <OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:

  <snip>
>I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you
>position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative
>clipping of posts) so I give up.
  <snip>

I'll repeat my "argument" just once more : it was Thomas who started the
slanging match by claiming he had the superior education.

I've said nothing about John S's sarcastic riposte.

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#18919 — Re: "javascript"

FromAndrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com>
Date2013-03-17 23:15 +1100
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<EKSdnZjlEfVaLtjMnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#18918
On 17/03/2013 10:13 PM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>
>    <snip>
>> I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you
>> position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative
>> clipping of posts) so I give up.
>    <snip>

> I've said nothing.

Oh ok.

Andrew Poulos

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#18920 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-17 16:42 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<RlKfmcBAKfRRFwGz@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18919
In message <EKSdnZjlEfVaLtjMnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:
>On 17/03/2013 10:13 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>> In message <OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>> Poulos wrote:
>>
>>    <snip>
>>> I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you
>>> position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative
>>> clipping of posts) so I give up.
>>    <snip>
>
>> I've said nothing.
>
>Oh ok.

Now that you've resorted to forged quotes we have to conclude that
you've become completely irrational. What a shame.

Get well soon,

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#18924 — Re: "javascript"

FromAndrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com>
Date2013-03-18 07:47 +1100
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<NZ-dnSy-ZpVrttvMnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#18920
On 18/03/2013 3:42 AM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <EKSdnZjlEfVaLtjMnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 17/03/2013 10:13 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>> In message <OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>
>>>     <snip>
>>>> I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you
>>>> position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative
>>>> clipping of posts) so I give up.
>>>     <snip>
>>
>>> I've said nothing.
>>
>> Oh ok.
>
> Now that you've resorted to forged quotes we have to conclude that
> you've become completely irrational. What a shame.
>
> Get well soon,

There's nothing forged - its creatively clipped in your typical manner.

Andrew Poulos

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#18933 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-18 15:01 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<L63NleCixyRRFw1R@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18924
In message <NZ-dnSy-ZpVrttvMnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:
>On 18/03/2013 3:42 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>> In message <EKSdnZjlEfVaLtjMnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>> Poulos wrote:
>>> On 17/03/2013 10:13 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>> In message <OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     <snip>
>>>>> I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you
>>>>> position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative
>>>>> clipping of posts) so I give up.
>>>>     <snip>
>>>
>>>> I've said nothing.

                      ^----

>>> Oh ok.
>>
>> Now that you've resorted to forged quotes we have to conclude that
>> you've become completely irrational. What a shame.
>>
>> Get well soon,
>
>There's nothing forged - its creatively clipped in your typical manner.

Liar.

Are you doing a Thomas and complaining that I sometimes quote only the
relevant part of a sentence ? When I do that, I *don't* move the full
stop to make it appear to be a full sentence.

As it says in the FAQ :
  "Quote only relevant parts of earlier messages," ...

Get well soon,

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#18938 — Re: "javascript"

FromAndrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com>
Date2013-03-19 07:34 +1100
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<b7qdnSE2V93l59rMnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#18933
On 19/03/2013 2:01 AM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <NZ-dnSy-ZpVrttvMnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 18/03/2013 3:42 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>>> In message <EKSdnZjlEfVaLtjMnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>> On 17/03/2013 10:13 PM, John G Harris wrote:
>>>>> In message <OYWdneHsnu_ofNnMnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
>>>>> Poulos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      <snip>
>>>>>> I realise that you want to win every argument and so you change you
>>>>>> position as often as possible in order to do that (including creative
>>>>>> clipping of posts) so I give up.
>>>>>      <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> I've said nothing.
>
>                        ^----
>
>>>> Oh ok.
>>>
>>> Now that you've resorted to forged quotes we have to conclude that
>>> you've become completely irrational. What a shame.
>>>
>>> Get well soon,
>>
>> There's nothing forged - its creatively clipped in your typical manner.
>
> Liar.

What bit do you think is a lie? That I forged your post (which I 
didn't); that you creatively clip (which you do); or, that creative 
clipping is part of your rhetorical techniques (which it is).

> Are you doing a Thomas and complaining that I sometimes quote only the
> relevant part of a sentence ? When I do that, I *don't* move the full
> stop to make it appear to be a full sentence.

I call it "creative clipping" and its a technique I'm learning from you.

> As it says in the FAQ :
>    "Quote only relevant parts of earlier messages," ...

You know I never read that to mean "clip bits of earlier messages so 
that the message means something other than what the poster intended" 
until I paid attention to how you clip.

> Get well soon,

Thank you for your concern.

Andrew Poulos

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#18943 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-19 15:04 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<MGLT0aBp5HSRFw$t@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18938
In message <b7qdnSE2V93l59rMnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:
>On 19/03/2013 2:01 AM, John G Harris wrote:

  <snip>
>> As it says in the FAQ :
>>    "Quote only relevant parts of earlier messages," ...
>
>You know I never read that to mean "clip bits of earlier messages so
>that the message means something other than what the poster intended"
>until I paid attention to how you clip.
  <snip>

You obviously haven't thought about it properly. Suppose you see an
article that says :

It's Monday, and it's raining.

You want to say something about the day of the week and nothing about
the weather. You sensibly quote just the relevant part :

>It's Monday,

Anything more would confuse people who would wonder what the weather has
to do with it. Then someone pops up and says :

Why do you insist that it's not raining ?

Uh ?


  John
-- 
John Harris

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#18947 — Re: "javascript"

FromAndrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com>
Date2013-03-20 07:40 +1100
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<Ns-dnTyYvK61UNXMnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#18943
On 20/03/2013 2:04 AM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <b7qdnSE2V93l59rMnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 19/03/2013 2:01 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>
>    <snip>
>>> As it says in the FAQ :
>>>     "Quote only relevant parts of earlier messages," ...
>>
>> You know I never read that to mean "clip bits of earlier messages so
>> that the message means something other than what the poster intended"
>> until I paid attention to how you clip.
>    <snip>
>
> You obviously haven't thought about it properly. Suppose you see an
> article that says :
>
> It's Monday, and it's raining.
>
> You want to say something about the day of the week and nothing about
> the weather. You sensibly quote just the relevant part :
>
>> It's Monday,
>
> Anything more would confuse people who would wonder what the weather has
> to do with it. Then someone pops up and says :
>
> Why do you insist that it's not raining ?

Yes, you're a master of "creative clipping". I'll try to learn as much 
as I can from you about it.

Andrew Poulos

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#18860 — Re: "javascript"

FromMike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com>
Date2013-03-13 12:03 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<XnsA18251EFFC1D2Usewebformwebsiteins@94.75.214.39>
In reply to#18852
Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
news:SIRiZ6EII4PRFwEq@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid: 

> There is an important difference.  Tim went to a world-renowned
> university, one where (if necessary) one also can learn civilised
> behaviour. 

While we're discussing academic merits, could you please remind us again 
where you earned your doctorate?

Mike Duffy B.Sc - Physics Major / Computer Science Minor 1979, University 
of Waterloo, Ontario (Canada)

-- 
http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm

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#18900 — Re: "javascript"

FromDr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-14 21:22 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<WTZTfwHU+jQRFwNm@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>
In reply to#18860
In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA18251EFFC1D2Usewebformwebsiteins@94
.75.214.39>, Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:03:11, Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website
_in_sig.com> posted:

>Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>news:SIRiZ6EII4PRFwEq@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid:
>
>> There is an important difference.  Tim went to a world-renowned
>> university, one where (if necessary) one also can learn civilised
>> behaviour.
>
>While we're discussing academic merits, could you please remind us again
>where you earned your doctorate?

No, because I have not yet told you that, not even once let alone the
necessary more-than-once.  But I will give you a non-helpful hint - your
University might have been named after a railway station that I used on
my way to my first University.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK.   E-mail, see Home Page.    Turnpike v6.05.
 Website  <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
 PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
 Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

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#18903 — Re: "javascript"

FromMike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com>
Date2013-03-15 01:44 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<XnsA183DD1F9FB36Usewebformwebsiteins@94.75.214.39>
In reply to#18900
Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in 
news:WTZTfwHU+jQRFwNm@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid:

> But I will give you a non-helpful hint - your University might
> have been named after a railway station that I used on
> my way to my first University.

Waterloo station is a major nexus. It is probably on the path from London  
to any number of jumped-up polytechnics in several insignificant towns. You 
need to give us a better hint.

-- 
http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm

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#18914 — Re: "javascript"

FromDr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-16 19:42 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<4J04JDQnsMRRFwwV@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>
In reply to#18903
In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA183DD1F9FB36Usewebformwebsiteins@94
.75.214.39>, Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:44:10, Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website
_in_sig.com> posted:

>Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>news:WTZTfwHU+jQRFwNm@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid:
>
>> But I will give you a non-helpful hint - your University might
>> have been named after a railway station that I used on
>> my way to my first University.
>
>Waterloo station is a major nexus. It is probably on the path from London
>to any number of jumped-up polytechnics in several insignificant towns. You
>need to give us a better hint.

I correctly thought that you would misunderstand.  Also, it is on the
path to the high-ranking Southampton University (Russell Group, for
example; but well below IC).

There seems to have been a strange motor-car accident just outside the
entrance to the Gare de Waterloo, according to Google Street View.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London UK               Reply address via Home Page.
   news:comp.lang.javascript FAQ <http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.html>.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-index.htm> jscr maths, dates, sources.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/jscr/&c, FAQ items, links.

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#18921 — Re: "javascript"

FromMike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com>
Date2013-03-17 18:25 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<XnsA18692CDFDAAEUsewebformwebsiteins@94.75.214.39>
In reply to#18914
Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
news:4J04JDQnsMRRFwwV@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid: 

> I correctly thought that you would misunderstand.  

Dr. Stockton! I just realized what the problem here is. Your humour is too 
dry for most people to catch; that is why they take it at its mildly 
denigrating face value instead of groaning appropriately.

More to the point, why do you not want to tell us more about your degrees?

I have always assumed that your degrees are, in fact, from fairly well-
respected institutions. But probably they are not directly related to 
"Computer Science".

When I was an undergraduate, many places did not even offer CS degrees 
because the field of study was too much of a novelty. Likely, this applied 
to you as well.

-- 
http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm

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#18923 — Re: "javascript"

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2013-03-17 19:01 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<timstreater-4B3790.19013017032013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#18921
In article <XnsA18692CDFDAAEUsewebformwebsiteins@94.75.214.39>,
 Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> wrote:

> Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> news:4J04JDQnsMRRFwwV@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid: 
> 
> > I correctly thought that you would misunderstand.  
> 
> Dr. Stockton! I just realized what the problem here is. Your humour is too 
> dry for most people to catch; that is why they take it at its mildly 
> denigrating face value instead of groaning appropriately.
> 
> More to the point, why do you not want to tell us more about your degrees?
> 
> I have always assumed that your degrees are, in fact, from fairly well-
> respected institutions. But probably they are not directly related to 
> "Computer Science".
> 
> When I was an undergraduate, many places did not even offer CS degrees 
> because the field of study was too much of a novelty. Likely, this applied 
> to you as well.

My experience too. That was why I did Physics as an undergrad and then 
walked down the road for the postgrad course.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18907 — Re: "javascript"

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2013-03-15 10:55 -0700
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<a4o6k8thn4ouscjep3eeb4p3dubman7qjr@4ax.com>
In reply to#18900
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:22:28 +0000, Dr J R Stockton
<reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

>No, because I have not yet told you that, not even once let alone the
>necessary more-than-once.  But I will give you a non-helpful hint - your
>University might have been named after a railway station that I used on
>my way to my first University.

     Mornington Crescent!

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#18864 — Re: "javascript"

FromJohn G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid>
Date2013-03-13 15:21 +0000
SubjectRe: "javascript"
Message-ID<+oAtzWHglJQRFwLt@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD08924D9443D28E23ED5CD>
In reply to#18829
In message <timstreater-76149C.23235610032013@news.individual.net>, Tim 
Streater wrote:
>In article <16846859.p7m99IjeGU@PointedEars.de>,
>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>
>> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> >> Tim Streater wrote:
>> >> > to support his foolish opinions.
>> >>  Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in 
>> >>computer
>> >> science.
>> >>  What about yours?
>> >  Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
>>  I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when 
>>doing  research for my work.
>
>Are you calling me a liar? DIC Imperial College 1970 (Computing and 
>Control: Computing Science).

Thomas may have worked in Computer Science but he still doesn't 
understand how the ECMA 262 syntax specifications work.

   John, ACGI, etc
-- 
John Harris

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