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  Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 06:18 -0800
    Re: Setting a text field's value from a href SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAdmin@wanadoo.fr.invalid> - 2012-03-09 16:23 +0100
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAdmin@wanadoo.fr.invalid> - 2012-03-09 16:30 +0100
        Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 07:48 -0800
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 07:31 -0800
        Re: Setting a text field's value from a href SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAdmin@wanadoo.fr.invalid> - 2012-03-09 18:50 +0100
          Re: Setting a text field's value from a href SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAdmin@wanadoo.fr.invalid> - 2012-03-09 19:01 +0100
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-09 17:59 +0100
    Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-03-09 09:06 -0800
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 09:24 -0800
        Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-03-09 12:42 -0800
          Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 13:12 -0800
    Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Christian Winter <thepoet_nospam@arcor.de> - 2012-03-09 19:05 +0100
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 10:51 -0800
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-03-09 20:55 +0100
        Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 13:02 -0800
          Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Dr J R Stockton <reply1210@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 21:09 +0000
          Re: Setting a text field's value from a href David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-03-12 16:32 -0700
            Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-13 10:07 -0700
              Re: Setting a text field's value from a href David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-03-13 10:43 -0700
                Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2012-03-13 11:09 -0700
                  Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-03-13 12:25 -0700
                  Re: Setting a text field's value from a href "Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2012-03-13 15:18 -0700
                    Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-04-25 16:53 -0400
    Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-03-10 00:20 +0000
      Re: Setting a text field's value from a href Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-03-10 01:44 +0100
        Re: Setting a text field's value from a href SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAdmin@wanadoo.fr.invalid> - 2012-03-10 09:58 +0100
          Re: Setting a text field's value from a href David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-03-12 16:33 -0700

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#12527 — Setting a text field's value from a href

I have a text field and a href. When the user click on the link I want
to set the text field to a value. I'm trying to do it with jQuery, but
I can't get it to work. I have this:

<A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>

How can I accomplish this?

And before 100 people tell me that is not the proper way to use a
link, please don't. I know this, but I have a client that wants this.
I told them it should be a button, but they want it to be a link, and
they are paying.

TIA!
-larry

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#12534

Le 09/03/12 15:18, Larry.Martell@gmail.com a écrit :
> <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>


the html code of 'filterValue' ? please.


<A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value='POR';">POR</A>

<A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value=this.text;">POR</A>


-- 
Stéphane Moriaux avec/with iMac-intel

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#12536

Le 09/03/12 16:23, SAM a écrit :
>
> <A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value='POR';">POR</A>


<form name="form_one" action="#" onsubmit="return false">
   <div>
     <p>name: <input name="Name">
     <p>filter: <input name="filterValue">
       <A 
href="javascript:document.form_one.filterValue.value=this.text;">POR</A>
       <A 
href="javascript:document.forms['form_one'].elements['filterValue'].value=this.text;">TAMBIEN</A>
    </div>
</form>


-- 
Stéphane Moriaux avec/with iMac-intel

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#12539

On Mar 9, 8:30 am, SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAd...@wanadoo.fr.invalid>
wrote:
> Le 09/03/12 16:23, SAM a écrit :
>
>
>
> > <A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value='POR';">POR</A>
>
> <form name="form_one" action="#" onsubmit="return false">
>    <div>
>      <p>name: <input name="Name">
>      <p>filter: <input name="filterValue">
>        <A
> href="javascript:document.form_one.filterValue.value=this.text;">POR</A>
>        <A
> href="javascript:document.forms['form_one'].elements['filterValue'].value=this.text;">TAMBIEN</A>
>     </div>
> </form>

Please excuse my ignorance, I am very new with javascript. I am not
sure how I would use that code.

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#12538

On Mar 9, 8:23 am, SAM <stephanemoriaux.NoAd...@wanadoo.fr.invalid>
wrote:
> Le 09/03/12 15:18, Larry.Mart...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
> > <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>
> the html code of 'filterValue' ? please.

<input type="text" id="filterValue" name="filterValue" size=20
placeholder='Filter these results'>

>
> <A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value='POR';">POR</A>
>
> <A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value=this.text;">POR</A>

Isn't the setter method val? When I try your code I get:

[08:30:30.709] $("filterValue").value is not a function @ javascript:$
('filterValue').value('POR');:1

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#12545

Le 09/03/12 16:31, Larry.Martell@gmail.com a écrit :
> On Mar 9, 8:23 am, SAM<stephanemoriaux.NoAd...@wanadoo.fr.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Le 09/03/12 15:18, Larry.Mart...@gmail.com a écrit :
>>
>>> <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>>
>> the html code of 'filterValue' ? please.
>
> <input type="text" id="filterValue" name="filterValue" size=20
> placeholder='Filter these results'>

// so we can reach that text-input using its id

var goal = document.getElementById('filterValue');

// or if the JS library jquery is loaded
// var gaol = $('filterValue');

if(goal)
	goal.value = 'what what wanted';


>> <A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value='POR';">POR</A>
>>
>> <A href="javascript:$('filterValue').value=this.text;">POR</A>
>
> Isn't the setter method val?

In JavaScript of our grand Mothers it was : value
right as in html code :
    <input type="text" name="wishes" value="what do you want ?">

In JS a little more up to date it could be :

if(goal)
	goal.setAttribute('what what wanted', 'value');

> When I try your code I get:
>
> [08:30:30.709] $("filterValue").value is not a function @ javascript:$
> ('filterValue').value('POR');:1

maybe the $() function wasn't defined ?


try :

<p>test on "value":
   <input type="text" id="filterValue" name="filterValue"
          placeholder='Filter these results'>
   <A href="explainPage.html"
      onclick="
	var goal = document.getElementById('filterValue');
	if(goal) goal.value = this.text;
	else
	alert('error on \'filterValue\'\n maybe there is more '+
               'than one element with this id ?');
	return false;
	">what is needed</A>
</p>

-- 
Stéphane Moriaux avec/with iMac-intel

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#12546

Le 09/03/12 18:50, SAM a écrit :

sorry ... some typos :-(

> // var gaol = $('filterValue');

	var goal = $('filterValue');

.../...

> if(goal)
> goal.setAttribute('what what wanted', 'value');

	
if(goal)
	goal.setAttribute('value','what what wanted');



-- 
Stéphane Moriaux avec/with iMac-intel

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#12540

On 09.03.2012 16:23, wrote SAM:
> Le 09/03/12 15:18, Larry.Martell@gmail.com a écrit :
>> <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
> 
> 
> the html code of 'filterValue' ? please.
> 
<...>

Which $ is that?

-- 
Jake Jarvis

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#12541

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 06:18:37 -0800 (PST), "Larry.Martell@gmail.com"
<larry.martell@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have a text field and a href. When the user click on the link I want
>to set the text field to a value. I'm trying to do it with jQuery, but
>I can't get it to work. I have this:
>
><A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>
>How can I accomplish this?
>
>And before 100 people tell me that is not the proper way to use a
>link, please don't. I know this, but I have a client that wants this.

     I am going to anyway.  It is wrong.  It makes things more
difficult to deal with because of violation of the Law of Least
Astonishment.

>I told them it should be a button, but they want it to be a link, and
>they are paying.

     But it is will not be a link.  Links link.

     There is a good chance that they do not actually understand the
situation or misunderstand.  Buying in to such can lead to a mess. You
are supposed to be the professional.  Be professional.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#12544

On Mar 9, 10:06 am, Gene Wirchenko <ge...@ocis.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 06:18:37 -0800 (PST), "Larry.Mart...@gmail.com"
>
> <larry.mart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I have a text field and a href. When the user click on the link I want
> >to set the text field to a value. I'm trying to do it with jQuery, but
> >I can't get it to work. I have this:
>
> ><A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>
> >How can I accomplish this?
>
> >And before 100 people tell me that is not the proper way to use a
> >link, please don't. I know this, but I have a client that wants this.
>
>      I am going to anyway.  It is wrong.  It makes things more
> difficult to deal with because of violation of the Law of Least
> Astonishment.
>
> >I told them it should be a button, but they want it to be a link, and
> >they are paying.
>
>      But it is will not be a link.  Links link.
>
>      There is a good chance that they do not actually understand the
> situation or misunderstand.  Buying in to such can lead to a mess. You
> are supposed to be the professional.  Be professional.

It's their own internal web site. They can do whatever they want. I
give my clients my best advice, and if they choose not to take it,
I'll still take their money and give them what they want.

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#12552

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:24:05 -0800 (PST), "Larry.Martell@gmail.com"
<larry.martell@gmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

>It's their own internal web site. They can do whatever they want. I
>give my clients my best advice, and if they choose not to take it,
>I'll still take their money and give them what they want.

     Do they understand Web design?  If yes, why are they going in
such a weird direction?  If no, they are getting into details that
they probably should not.

     Do you know what problem the weirdness they are asking for
supposedly solves?  The issue is that you may do what they want and
miss really solving the problem.  If it then goes wrong, you will get
the blame.  And there may be a better way of solving the problem.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#12554

On Mar 9, 1:42 pm, Gene Wirchenko <ge...@ocis.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:24:05 -0800 (PST), "Larry.Mart...@gmail.com"
>
> <larry.mart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >It's their own internal web site. They can do whatever they want. I
> >give my clients my best advice, and if they choose not to take it,
> >I'll still take their money and give them what they want.
>
>      Do they understand Web design?  If yes, why are they going in
> such a weird direction?  If no, they are getting into details that
> they probably should not.
>
>      Do you know what problem the weirdness they are asking for
> supposedly solves?  The issue is that you may do what they want and
> miss really solving the problem.  If it then goes wrong, you will get
> the blame.  And there may be a better way of solving the problem.


I'm not sure what the big deal is. They have an existing app built
with django. They asked me to add a new page that takes in some input
parameters, runs a db query and displays the results. Then they wanted
a text entry field that did live filtering on the result set. Then
they wanted these links added that would filter on some commonly used
strings so they wouldn't have to type them in. I said these should
really be buttons, not links. They said they wanted them to be links.
So that's what I did. Their app already has hrefs that do things like
select data, download files, and other non-link behavior.

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#12547

Am 09.03.2012 15:18, schrieb Larry.Martell@gmail.com:
> I have a text field and a href. When the user click on the link I want
> to set the text field to a value. I'm trying to do it with jQuery, but
> I can't get it to work. I have this:
>
> <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>
> How can I accomplish this?
>
> And before 100 people tell me that is not the proper way to use a
> link, please don't. I know this, but I have a client that wants this.
> I told them it should be a button, but they want it to be a link, and
> they are paying.

While it's definitely not the recommended way, you have two issues
in your code snippet:

1. jQuery uses css selectors, so to access an element with the id
    of "filterValue", you need to use $('#filterValue').

2. Your code will replace the current page content with the return
    value of your expression. To avoid this, you need to prefix it
    with the void operator.

<a href="javascript:void $('#filterValue').val('POR');">POR</a>
should work like a charm.

-Chris

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#12549

On Mar 9, 11:05 am, Christian Winter <thepoet_nos...@arcor.de> wrote:
> Am 09.03.2012 15:18, schrieb Larry.Mart...@gmail.com:
>
> > I have a text field and a href. When the user click on the link I want
> > to set the text field to a value. I'm trying to do it with jQuery, but
> > I can't get it to work. I have this:
>
> > <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>
> > How can I accomplish this?
>
> > And before 100 people tell me that is not the proper way to use a
> > link, please don't. I know this, but I have a client that wants this.
> > I told them it should be a button, but they want it to be a link, and
> > they are paying.
>
> While it's definitely not the recommended way, you have two issues
> in your code snippet:
>
> 1. jQuery uses css selectors, so to access an element with the id
>     of "filterValue", you need to use $('#filterValue').
>
> 2. Your code will replace the current page content with the return
>     value of your expression. To avoid this, you need to prefix it
>     with the void operator.
>
> <a href="javascript:void $('#filterValue').val('POR');">POR</a>
> should work like a charm.
>
> -Chris

Thank you very much Chris! This is exactly what I was looking for.

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#12551

Christian Winter wrote:

> Am 09.03.2012 15:18, schrieb Larry.Martell@gmail.com:
>> I have a text field and a href. When the user click on the link I want
>> to set the text field to a value. I'm trying to do it with jQuery, but
>> I can't get it to work. I have this:
>>
>> <A href="javascript: $('filterValue').val('POR');">POR</A>
>>
>> How can I accomplish this?
>>
>> And before 100 people tell me that is not the proper way to use a
>> link, please don't. I know this, but I have a client that wants this.
>> I told them it should be a button, but they want it to be a link, and
>> they are paying.
> 
> While it's definitely not the recommended way, you have two issues
> in your code snippet:
> 
> 1. jQuery uses css selectors, so to access an element with the id
>     of "filterValue", you need to use $('#filterValue').
> 
> 2. Your code will replace the current page content with the return
>     value of your expression. To avoid this, you need to prefix it
>     with the void operator.
> 
> <a href="javascript:void $('#filterValue').val('POR');">POR</a>
> should work like a charm.

The value of the `href' attribute must be an URI [1].  URIs must not contain 
the space character verbatim [2].  Therefore, you can either write

  <a href="javascript:void%20$('#filterValue').val('POR')">POR</a>

or

  <a href="javascript:void(('#filterValue').val('POR'))">POR</a>

(As `void' is an operator and not a function, a trailing `;' makes no sense 
to me here.  This is also one of the rare cases where an operation must be 
written like a function call to keep the code better readable, or only 
shorter.)

However, either code is not only not recommended, it is positively harmful 
to both the author and the visitor of the Web site, and therefore strongly 
recommended against [3].

The proper way to run script code upon user interaction is – since at least 
HTML 4.01 (1999/2000) – with event-handler attributes or, in general, event 
listener code [4, 5].  The usually more efficient and less error-prone code 
is (watch for word-wrap):

  <a href="#"
     onclick="document.getElementById('filterValue').firstChild.nodeValue = 
'POR'; return false">POR</a>

Or, if you prefer greater overall efficiency and reliability with greater 
complexity:

    …
    <script type="text/javascript">
      var filterValue;

      function body_load ()
      {
        var link = document.getElementById("myLink");
        link.onclick = function () {
          if (typeof filterValue == "undefined")
          {
            filterValue = document.getElementById("filterValue");
          }

          filterValue.firstChild.nodeValue = "POR";

          return false;
        };
      }
    </script>
  </head>

  <body onload="body_load()">
    <a href="#" id="myLink">…</a>
  </body>

(In this case, the `a' element as a whole should be generated with scripting 
-- e. g., document.write(…) -- as it would be unusable without.  However, if 
there is a reasonable alternative for the user without scripting, it should 
additionally be referred in the `href' attribute value instead.  If the `a' 
element can only be used with scripting, it should also be considered for 
change into a proper form control, like `button' [6].  CSS can be applied to 
buttons to make them look like textual hyperlinks in most widely distributed 
browsers.)

However, jQuery also offers a faster written, but considerably less 
efficient and more error-prone alternative [7]:

  jQuery(function (j) {
    j('#filterValue').click(function (j) {
      j(this).value('POR');
    });
  });

This might be the only way to make this work in a jQuery-powered Web 
application as in my experience jQuery manipulates the `onload' attribute 
and `onload' property value so that it cannot be used.

It can be observed that the main (only?) jQuery author is still lacking 
basic understanding of the Document Object Model API as implemented in
Web browsers, and the use-cases for Web browsers [8, 9].  Therefore,
jQuery (and jQuery-related extensions) should not be used in a production 
environment, particularly not on a public Web site which may be exposed to 
any user agent.

Unfortunately, there are still people who are lacking the most basic 
programming skills and therefore have come to think they absolutely need 
jQuery (or any script library) even for the most simple programming tasks 
[10].

_______
 [1] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/links.html#adef-href>
 [2] <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2>
 [3] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#javascriptURI>
 [4] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#h-18.2.3>
 [5] <http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Events/>
 [6] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html>
 [7] <http://api.jquery.com/ready/>
 [8] <http://api.jquery.com/attr/>
 [9] <http://jquery.com/>, point to "Cross-browser"
[10] <http://www.doxdesk.com/updates/2009.html#u20091116-jquery>
-- 
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
  -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>

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#12553

On Mar 9, 12:55 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
wrote:

[snip]

> Unfortunately, there are still people who are lacking the most basic
> programming skills and therefore have come to think they absolutely need
> jQuery (or any script library) even for the most simple programming tasks.

I am the OP, so I guess this is a dig at me. I have been programming
for 36 years, however I've only been programming in javascript for 2
days. I'm learning from the JavaScript: The Definitive Guide book,
examples I see on the web, and the existing code at the client I am
working for.

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#12589

In comp.lang.javascript message <74524d5a-6d4b-4a99-8e65-50217ad79f48@v2
2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:02:38,
"Larry.Martell@gmail.com" <larry.martell@gmail.com> posted:

>
>I am the OP, so I guess this is a dig at me. I have been programming
>for 36 years, however I've only been programming in javascript for 2
>days. I'm learning from the JavaScript: The Definitive Guide book,
>examples I see on the web, and the existing code at the client I am
>working for.

One of those is likely to be right : no more, than one, though.

You should also be reading the newsgroup's FAQ; see sig.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London UK  ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk  IE8 FF8 Op11 Sf5 Cr15
   news:comp.lang.javascript FAQ <http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.html>.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-index.htm> jscr maths, dates, sources.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/jscr/&c, FAQ items, links.

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#12617

On Mar 9, 5:02 pm, "Larry.Mart...@gmail.com" <larry.mart...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 9, 12:55 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@web.de>
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Unfortunately, there are still people who are lacking the most basic
> > programming skills and therefore have come to think they absolutely need
> > jQuery (or any script library) even for the most simple programming tasks.
>
> I am the OP, so I guess this is a dig at me.

Doubtful.

> I have been programming
> for 36 years, however I've only been programming in javascript for 2
> days.

Then you should think about the above "dig" as you are definitely at
risk. And browser scripting is like nothing you've seen in those 36
years. ;)

> I'm learning from the JavaScript: The Definitive Guide book,
> examples I see on the web, and the existing code at the client I am
> working for.

I haven't read that book, but using examples you see on the Web is a
sure recipe for disaster. Most Web developers/bloggers/pundits have no
idea what they are doing/saying and many have a marketing agenda.

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#12648

On Mar 12, 5:32 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 5:02 pm, "Larry.Mart...@gmail.com" <larry.mart...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I have been programming
> > for 36 years, however I've only been programming in javascript for 2
> > days.
>
> Then you should think about the above "dig" as you are definitely at
> risk. And browser scripting is like nothing you've seen in those 36
> years. ;)

Yes, I am finding that to most definitely be the case.

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#12650

On Mar 13, 1:07 pm, "Larry.Mart...@gmail.com"
<larry.mart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 5:32 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 9, 5:02 pm, "Larry.Mart...@gmail.com" <larry.mart...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I have been programming
> > > for 36 years, however I've only been programming in javascript for 2
> > > days.
>
> > Then you should think about the above "dig" as you are definitely at
> > risk. And browser scripting is like nothing you've seen in those 36
> > years. ;)
>
> Yes, I am finding that to most definitely be the case.

It has unique challenges, which is something a lot of transplants
(e.g. Java programmers) miss. But it's not impossibly difficult, so
resist the urge to abdicate responsibility to people you don't know
and can't assess (reading their blogs doesn't count). ;)

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