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  Novel, innovative JavaScript IDE coming up Thomas D <strikinglyslow@googlemail.com> - 2012-04-28 11:16 -0700
    Re: Novel, innovative JavaScript IDE coming up "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-04-28 21:35 -0700
      Re: Novel, innovative JavaScript IDE coming up strikinglyslow@googlemail.com - 2012-04-29 04:57 -0700
        Re: Novel, innovative JavaScript IDE coming up "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-04-29 07:59 -0700

#13673 — Novel, innovative JavaScript IDE coming up

A guy named Chris Granger is creating an IDE called Light Table with
some novel features.

here are the most important facts:
- as-you-type code evaluation (coolest part, FWIW)
- lets you arrange related bits of code (i.e. functions) in a tabular
fashion
- makes it extremely quick and convenient to view relevant docs
- Chris is raising funds and putting together a team of developers to
create a serious IDE
- the project will be open source (probably on a pay-what-u-think-its-
worth basis to ensure maintenance and further development)
- initially supported languages will be JavaScript and Clojure. It
will be extensible to other languages via plugins.
- Chris has been as a Program Manager at Microsoft, working on Visual
Studio. He knows what he is up to.
- first release is planned for may 2013, open beta for january 2013

In this video Chris demonstrates a prototype: https://vimeo.com/40281991
(The video shows Clojure code. But as said, JavaScript will also be
supported, from the start.)
You can help this project take off or just see the latest news at
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table.

Thomas

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#13684

On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:16:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas D wrote:
> A guy named Chris Granger is creating an IDE called Light Table with
> some novel features.
> 
> here are the most important facts:
> - as-you-type code evaluation (coolest part, FWIW)
> - lets you arrange related bits of code (i.e. functions) in a tabular
> fashion
> - makes it extremely quick and convenient to view relevant docs
> - Chris is raising funds and putting together a team of developers to
> create a serious IDE
> - the project will be open source (probably on a pay-what-u-think-its-
> worth basis to ensure maintenance and further development)
> - initially supported languages will be JavaScript and Clojure. It
> will be extensible to other languages via plugins.
> - Chris has been as a Program Manager at Microsoft, working on Visual
> Studio. He knows what he is up to.
> - first release is planned for may 2013, open beta for january 2013
> 
> In this video Chris demonstrates a prototype: https://vimeo.com/40281991
> (The video shows Clojure code. But as said, JavaScript will also be
> supported, from the start.)
> You can help this project take off or just see the latest news at
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table.

It is an interesting and commendable product to watch, but lets not overstate the novelty. The SmallTalk/Squeak community is feeling deja vu once again...

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#13688

ok some features should probably called "revived brilliance" then.

You dont have realtime code evaluation though, do you?
I wonder, why didnt anyone come up with this yet? Dynamic and functional languages really lend themselves to this.

> It is an interesting and commendable product to watch, but lets not overstate the novelty. The SmallTalk/Squeak community is feeling deja vu once again...

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#13692

On Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:57:08 AM UTC-5, strikin...@googlemail.com wrote:
> ok some features should probably called "revived brilliance" then.

Indeed

> You dont have realtime code evaluation though, do you?

In Squeak there is a built in version control called Monticello, and a method for real time testing. In regards to real time evaluation, sort-of...kind-of. The method of development is a bit strange. It is analogous to doing all your development in a suped up version of your favorite JavaScript console in the browser, where at any time you can display a specific result with the stroke of a key or a click of a button.

It is very different but enlightening for the patient <http://squeakbyexample.org//SBE.pdf>

> I wonder, why didnt anyone come up with this yet? Dynamic and functional languages really lend themselves to this.

I think the bigger question is that why hasn't more of the Squeak/Smalltalk ideas leaked out of their community? Marketing + Inertia probably.

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