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  A question for a non-programmer fulio pen <fuliopen@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-13 14:29 -0700
    Re: A question for a non-programmer Danny <dann90038@gmail.com> - 2012-10-13 14:48 -0700
      Re: A question for a non-programmer fulio pen <fuliopen@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-13 15:38 -0700
    Re: A question for a non-programmer Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 05:42 +0000
      Re: A question for a non-programmer "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2012-10-14 09:41 +0200
        Re: A question for a non-programmer Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-10-14 10:55 +0000
          Re: A question for a non-programmer fulio pen <fuliopen@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-14 09:45 -0700

#16610 — A question for a non-programmer

Hello,

My question is presented in the following web page:

http://www.pinyinology.com/wheel/jieDa/fortune4t.html

I believe it is a piece of cake for many programmers here.  Thanks for your help. 

fulio pen

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#16612

A question for a non-programmer  <-- ??

Is this a query for a non-programmer or FROM a non-programmer? 

If so, I can't quite make the question from that webpage

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#16619

On Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:48:20 PM UTC-4, Danny wrote:
> A question for a non-programmer  <-- ??
> 
> 
> 
> Is this a query for a non-programmer or FROM a non-programmer? 
> 
> 
> 
> If so, I can't quite make the question from that webpage

It is from me, a non programmer. It is not for a non programmer. Sorry for the confusion. I wish to ask the question in a better way, but have no idea what to do. Thanks again. 

fulio

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#16627

On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:29:45 -0700, fulio pen wrote:

> My question is presented in the following web page:
> 
> http://www.pinyinology.com/wheel/jieDa/fortune4t.html
> 
> I believe it is a piece of cake for many programmers here.  Thanks for
> your help.

1) The document shouldn't need a "<form></form> to wrap input elements 
that are not actually submitted as a form using post or get request. Such 
form elements just need placing in a suitable block level container.

2) The two un-named forms both contain inputs called name1 and name2. It 
might be better to give these inputs unique names and ids within the 
document if they need identification.

3) You appear to use js code to write out the grids that creates two 
grids that may contain spans having the same id attribute as the 
equivalent span in another grid. This is very bad. A document should only 
contain one element with any given id.

4) I suspect that code has been copied from one location to another 
location without changing all the places that need changing to make the 
code work in the second location.

http://www.sined.co.uk/tmp/fortune4t.html

contains various methods of displaying characters with a timeout, 
hopefully one of them might do what you're looking for.

I'm sure that other real coders can come up with several different 
methods of doing the same thing, and I also have no doubt that some 
people will have no contribution whatsoever to make but will attempt to 
display the pretence of great knowledge by declaring that every method 
I've used is flawed in some way whilst resolutely failing to actually 
suggest what they think is the correct method, or even a valid way, to 
achieve the required result.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

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#16629

Denis McMahon wrote on 14 okt 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> I'm sure that other real coders can come up with several different 
> methods of doing the same thing, and I also have no doubt that some 
> people will have no contribution whatsoever to make but will attempt to 
> display the pretence of great knowledge by declaring that every method 
> I've used is flawed in some way whilst resolutely failing to actually 
> suggest what they think is the correct method, or even a valid way, to 
> achieve the required result.

All being within the scope of usenet, usenet not being a helpdesk per se.

You declaring you are "sure" falls in the same acceptable category.

This absolute "the correct method" without the addendum "for me" is the 
ultimate nonsense in programming, me thinks. Beginners asking for such 
"correct method" or "best method" should be forgiven by default, but should 
be swiftly corrected.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#16631

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:41:56 +0200, Evertjan. wrote:

> This absolute "the correct method" without the addendum "for me" is the
> ultimate nonsense in programming, me thinks. Beginners asking for such
> "correct method" or "best method" should be forgiven by default, but
> should be swiftly corrected.

Oh certainly. If I can write six different approaches and have no idea 
which is the best way to achieve what I think the OP is trying to 
achieve, I'm sure there are others out there who can write other totally 
different approaches. Judging the "best" method will be problematical to 
say the least, for example innerHTML vs DOM manipulation. I'm tending 
towards the latter these days, on the general basis that it's harder to 
break the structure of a document as badly using dom manipulation calls 
as it is by setting elem.innerHTML to some string that breaks things.

But that comment was also a dig at certain posters who seem to only ever 
post criticism of other people's code, whilst never actually offering any 
code solutions of their own.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

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#16635

On Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:55:14 AM UTC-4, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:41:56 +0200, Evertjan. wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > This absolute "the correct method" without the addendum "for me" is the
> 
> > ultimate nonsense in programming, me thinks. Beginners asking for such
> 
> > "correct method" or "best method" should be forgiven by default, but
> 
> > should be swiftly corrected.
> 
> 
> 
> Oh certainly. If I can write six different approaches and have no idea 
> 
> which is the best way to achieve what I think the OP is trying to 
> 
> achieve, I'm sure there are others out there who can write other totally 
> 
> different approaches. Judging the "best" method will be problematical to 
> 
> say the least, for example innerHTML vs DOM manipulation. I'm tending 
> 
> towards the latter these days, on the general basis that it's harder to 
> 
> break the structure of a document as badly using dom manipulation calls 
> 
> as it is by setting elem.innerHTML to some string that breaks things.
> 
> 
> 
> But that comment was also a dig at certain posters who seem to only ever 
> 
> post criticism of other people's code, whilst never actually offering any 
> 
> code solutions of their own.
> 
> 
> 
> Rgds
> 
> 
> 
> Denis McMahon

Thanks a lot for your help.  I will carefully study your comments and Denis's code, and correct my code accordingly.  My appreciations. 

Best regards.
fulio Open

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