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  String to Base76 dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 22:24 -0400
    Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-07 08:15 +0200
      Re: String to Base76 dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:12 -0400
        Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 19:20 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 13:23 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:17 +0200
              Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 09:02 +0200
                Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 11:53 +0200
                  Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 12:14 +0200
                    Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 12:28 +0200
                      Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 17:27 +0200
                        Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 18:19 +0200
                          Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 19:08 +0200
                        Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 10:48 -0700
                          Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-09 22:06 +0200
                            Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 14:18 -0700
              Re: String to Base76 John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-07-08 16:03 +0100
          Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 10:48 -0700
            Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 13:58 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 21:04 +0200
              Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 13:11 -0700
                Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 23:38 +0200
                  Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 10:50 -0700
                    Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-09 22:22 +0200
                      Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-09 14:24 -0700
                        Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-10 09:16 +0200
        Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:14 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 20:38 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 03:27 +0200
    Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 12:30 +0200
      Re: String to Base76 dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:16 -0400
        Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 19:26 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 13:54 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-07 21:17 +0200
              Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 16:57 -0400
                Re: String to Base76 "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-07-08 00:17 +0200
                Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:30 +0200
                  Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 20:43 -0400
                    Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 03:17 +0200
                      Re: String to Base76 Wesley Navaille <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 22:01 -0400
                        Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 12:05 +0200
                          Re: String to Base76 Wesley Navaille <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 13:50 -0400
                            Re: String to Base76 Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 19:05 -0700
                              Re: String to Base76 Wesley Navaille <dddudeman9@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 22:17 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-08 00:22 +0200
    Re: String to Base76 wolfgang zeidler <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-07 20:02 +0200
      Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 14:08 -0400
        Re: String to Base76 "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-07-07 12:01 -0700
      Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 13:05 -0700
        Re: String to Base76 "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-07-07 13:24 -0700
          Re: String to Base76 Wesley <dddudeman9@gmail.comREMOVETHIS> - 2015-07-07 17:10 -0400
            Re: String to Base76 "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-07-07 14:53 -0700
        Re: String to Base76 wolfgang zeidler <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-07 23:46 +0200
          Re: String to Base76 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-07 15:21 -0700

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#28309 — String to Base76

I am writing an IRC bot in node.js and I am trying to implement base76 
conversion. Similar to base64, but using a different number. It's a 
stupid idea, but we want to use a base that isn't commonly used, not 
really for security, but for privacy, if that makes any sense. The basic 
idea that I have is to get the string and convert it to the ascii 
character codes, then that string of numbers to base76 using a character 
set that I made up. I think I'm going to use 
"ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+=/\><^-_%$[]*" 
but I have no idea if that's actually what's used in that base. Would I 
be best off using the base64 module and modifying that or making mine 
implementation in js?

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#28312

dddudeman wrote:

> […] The basic idea that I have is to get the string and convert it to the 
> ascii character codes, then that string of numbers to base76 using a
> character set that I made up. I think I'm going to use
> "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+=/\><^-
> _%$[]*" but I have no idea if that's actually what's used in that base.

It is *your* idea.

> Would I be best off using the base64 module and modifying that or making 
> mine implementation in js?

Yes.

BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.

BTW2, get a *real* name.

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#28321

On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> dddudeman wrote:
>> Would I be best off using the base64 module and modifying that or making
>> mine implementation in js?
>
> Yes.
what

> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.

> BTW2, get a *real* name.
Why would I post under my real name?

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#28323

dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:
> On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.

The dude is right here, Thomas.
It is a long dead and unnecessary NG.

>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
> Why would I post under my real name?

Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
Do you need obligations to do anything?

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#28324

On 7/7/2015 13:20, Evertjan. wrote:
> dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
>> On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
>> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.
>
> The dude is right here, Thomas.
> It is a long dead and unnecessary NG.
>
I just posted it there as well in case there was somebody who does check 
it.
>>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
>> Why would I post under my real name?
>
> Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
> Do you need obligations to do anything?
>
There I fixed it, I'm just always hesitant to using my real name on the 
internet. Sorry about that.

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#28344

Wesley wrote:

> On 7/7/2015 13:20, Evertjan. wrote:
>> dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
>> comp.lang.javascript:
>>> On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
>>> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.
>> The dude is right here, Thomas.

Only partially, see my other follow-up.

>> It is a long dead and unnecessary NG.
> I just posted it there as well in case there was somebody who does check
> it.

See my other follow-up.

>>>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
>>> Why would I post under my real name?
>> Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
>> Do you need obligations to do anything?
>
> There I fixed it,

Only partially, Mr. Crusher ;-)

> I'm just always hesitant to using my real name on the internet.

This is _not_ the Internet.

> Sorry about that.

Apology accepted.

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#28357

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>> There I fixed it,
> 
> Only partially, Mr. Crusher ;-)

Always nice to combine a face whith a name, isn't it?

<http://trekcore.com/gallery/albums/wesleycrusher/datalore182.jpg>
 
>> I'm just always hesitant to using my real name on the internet.
> 
> This is _not_ the Internet.

This is the Internet, though not the Web. 


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#28359

Evertjan. wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote […]:
>>> There I fixed it,
>> Only partially, Mr. Crusher ;-)
> 
> Always nice to combine a face whith a name, isn't it?
> 
> <http://trekcore.com/gallery/albums/wesleycrusher/datalore182.jpg>

There is hope for you yet.

>>> I'm just always hesitant to using my real name on the internet.
>> This is _not_ the Internet.
> 
> This is the Internet,

Wrong.

> though not the Web.

This is not the Web, *too*.

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#28362

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>>> This is _not_ the Internet.
>> 
>> This is the Internet,
> 
> Wrong.

Why? 

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#28364

Evertjan. wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
>>>> This is _not_ the Internet.
>>> This is the Internet,
>> Wrong.
> 
> Why?

The answer (and discussion that may follow) is off-topic here.  You can read 
it in <news:3971820.SRGrHKaAbY@PointedEars.de>.  HTH.

F'up2 poster

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#28367

On 08 Jul 2015, you wrote in comp.lang.javascript:

> Evertjan. wrote:
> 
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in
>> comp.lang.javascript:
>>>>> This is _not_ the Internet.
>>>> This is the Internet,
>>> Wrong.
>> 
>> Why?
> 
> The answer (and discussion that may follow) is off-topic here.

So I maintain your answer was wrong,
obviously wrong, terribly wrong.

Usnet is part of internet, these days.

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The Netherlands.
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#28368

Evertjan. wrote:

> On 08 Jul 2015, you wrote in comp.lang.javascript:
>> Evertjan. wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in
>>> comp.lang.javascript:
>>>>>> This is _not_ the Internet.
>>>>> This is the Internet,
>>>> Wrong.
>>> Why?
>> The answer (and discussion that may follow) is off-topic here.
> 
> So I maintain your answer was wrong,
> obviously wrong, terribly wrong.

You have the freedom to believe (in) any nonsense that you want, of course.

> Usnet is part of internet, these days.

It is not, which you could have read in the answer that I referred you to.

That you not only not quoted the reference, but also ignored the Followup-To 
poster, which, had you observed it, would have avoided another off-topic 
posting by any of the both of us, is telling me that you are not interested 
in the truth.

EOD

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#28369

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

>>> The answer (and discussion that may follow) is off-topic here.
>> 
>> So I maintain your answer was wrong,
>> obviously wrong, terribly wrong.
> 
> You have the freedom to believe (in) any nonsense that you want, of
> course. 
> 
>> Usenet is part of internet, these days.
> 
> It is not, which you could have read in the answer that I referred you
> to. 

You should give the arguments, I am not interested in wild links.

> That you not only not quoted the reference, 

This was on purpose, I am not interested in your links.

> but also ignored the Followup-To poster, which, had you observed it,

I did not want to, so your request was ignored.
 
> would have avoided another off-topic posting by any of the both of us, 

Well, I do not agree it is off topic.

> is telling me that you are not interested in the truth.

Dear self-proclaimed master-of-the-truth,

It is pittyfull you are not able 
to discuss on the playingfield provided,
and see your own words as godly.

Finally I repeat, Usenet nowadays is part of Internet.

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#28373

On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 17:27:56 +0200, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>On 08 Jul 2015, you wrote in comp.lang.javascript:
>
>> Evertjan. wrote:
>> 
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 08 Jul 2015 in
>>> comp.lang.javascript:
>>>>>> This is _not_ the Internet.
>>>>> This is the Internet,
>>>> Wrong.
>>> 
>>> Why?
>> 
>> The answer (and discussion that may follow) is off-topic here.
>
>So I maintain your answer was wrong,
>obviously wrong, terribly wrong.
>
>Usnet is part of internet, these days.

     These days?  It has been part of the Internet during all of its
existance.

     It is hilarious how wound up Mr. Lahn gets about there
technically being no JavaScript, but makes a horrible blunder in
claiming this is not the Internet.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#28376

Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 09 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>>Usnet is part of internet, these days.

Usenet predates the internet.

> 
> These days?  It has been part of the Internet during all of its
> existance.

Usenet predates the internet.

==========================

Usenet is a worldwide distributed discussion system. It was developed from 
the general-purpose UUCP dial-up network architecture. Tom Truscott and Jim 
Ellis conceived the idea in 1979, and it was established in 1980.

Access to the ARPANET was expanded in 1981 when the National Science 
Foundation (NSF) developed the Computer Science Network (CSNET). In 1982, 
the Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) was standardized 

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#28378

On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 22:06:18 +0200, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 09 Jul 2015 in 
>comp.lang.javascript:
>
>>>Usnet is part of internet, these days.
>
>Usenet predates the internet.

     I did not know that.  Thank you for the correction.

     "these days" is rather long.  I have been on the Net for nearly
twenty years, and I started using USENET in my first day or so of
Internet use.

>> These days?  It has been part of the Internet during all of its
>> existance.
>
>Usenet predates the internet.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#28366

On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:17:29 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

>Wesley wrote:
>

  <snip>
>> I'm just always hesitant to using my real name on the internet.
>
>This is _not_ the Internet.
  <snip>

Usenet News articles reach me via the Internet. Therefore, anyone who
wants to avoid certain information travelling over the Internet must
avoid putting that information in news articles.

Therefore Thomas's criticism is illogical and shows a lack of clear
thinking.

  John

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#28326

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:20:52 +0200, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
>comp.lang.javascript:
>> On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
>> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.
>
>The dude is right here, Thomas.
>It is a long dead and unnecessary NG.
>
>>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
>> Why would I post under my real name?
>
>Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
>Do you need obligations to do anything?

     What is decent about it?  Is "Evertjan." your real name?  I
suspect that you have at least two strung together.  I really do not
think that it matters as long as the person is consistent (no
nym-shifting) and the name is not rude.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#28328

On 7/7/2015 13:48, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:20:52 +0200, "Evertjan."
> <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:
>
>> dddudeman <dddudeman9@gmail.com> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in
>> comp.lang.javascript:
>>> On 7/7/2015 02:15, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> BTW, alt.comp.lang.javascript does not exist.
>>> I'm pretty sure it does and you just posted to it.
>>
>> The dude is right here, Thomas.
>> It is a long dead and unnecessary NG.
>>
>>>> BTW2, get a *real* name.
>>> Why would I post under my real name?
>>
>> Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
>> Do you need obligations to do anything?
>
>       What is decent about it?  Is "Evertjan." your real name?  I
> suspect that you have at least two strung together.  I really do not
> think that it matters as long as the person is consistent (no
> nym-shifting) and the name is not rude.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>

Sorry for changing my name in the middle of this thread. I'll keep it to 
Wesley in the future.  One reason why I had dddudeman set as my name was 
because I use that handle on other things (irc, forums, etc) and AFAIK I 
am the only one with that name, where there might be 10 other Wesleys in 
one NG.

I know that this isn't really in response to you, but since you 
mentioned name changing I thought your message would be the best to 
reply to.

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#28332

Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote on 07 Jul 2015 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>>Because is is customary on this NG and decent.
>>Do you need obligations to do anything?
> 
>      What is decent about it?  Is "Evertjan." your real name?  I
> suspect that you have at least two strung together. 

You are free to suspect whatever you like.

> I really do not think that it matters 
> as long as the person is consistent (no
> nym-shifting) and the name is not rude.

Would't "decent" mean "not-rude"?

> Sincerely,

I hope so, but I think it is just a fraze to you.

Gene, you are missing the point.

"Real" does not mean "legal",
but what is used in real life,
perhaps real == not virtual,
but I do not mean that.

"Real" here for me, 
and perhaps for Thomas too,
just means not absent, hidden or secret.
 
> Gene Wirchenko

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