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  Greetings Matt Tacchi <mangamatt81@gmail.com> - 2013-07-11 00:41 -0700
    Re: Greetings Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-11 09:36 +0100
      Re: Greetings Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-07-11 09:55 -0700
    Re: Greetings "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-07-11 10:37 +0200
      Re: Greetings orandaman@gmail.com - 2013-07-11 01:52 -0700
        Re: Greetings Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2013-07-11 08:54 -0400
          Re: Greetings "ViLco" <villiber@tin.it> - 2013-07-11 15:23 +0200
          Re: Greetings Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-11 14:44 +0100
      Re: Greetings Matt Tacchi <mangamatt81@gmail.com> - 2013-07-11 01:55 -0700
        Re: Greetings Matt Tacchi <mangamatt81@gmail.com> - 2013-07-11 02:06 -0700
          Re: Greetings "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-07-11 11:20 +0200
            Re: Greetings Matt Tacchi <mangamatt81@gmail.com> - 2013-07-11 02:26 -0700
              Re: Greetings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-07-11 12:53 +0200
      Re: Greetings Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-07-13 16:38 +0100
        Re: Greetings "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-07-14 17:25 +0200
          Re: Greetings Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-07-14 15:19 -0300
            Re: Greetings "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-07-15 10:01 +0200
          Re: Greetings Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-07-15 18:01 +0100
            Re: Greetings Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-07-19 21:55 -0300
              Re: Greetings "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-07-20 13:55 +0200

#20612 — Greetings

Hey everyone,

    I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have found this google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount of Spam however, is there nothing that can be done to keep the board tidying ;)



Kind regards,


Matt

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#20614

In article <910aa354-ad0b-435e-9bd7-0d1bd7cf9be7@googlegroups.com>,
 Matt Tacchi <mangamatt81@gmail.com> wrote:

>     I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have found this 
>     google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount of Spam however, 
>     is there nothing that can be done to keep the board tidying ;)

Why do you think this usenet group has anything to do with google? It 
does not. If you use a proper newsreader and subscribe to a proper 
newsfeed you won't see any spam either; I don't.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#20627

On 7/11/13 1:36 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <910aa354-ad0b-435e-9bd7-0d1bd7cf9be7@googlegroups.com>,
> Matt Tacchi <mangamatt81@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>     I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have
>> found this     google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount
>> of Spam however,     is there nothing that can be done to keep the
>> board tidying ;)
>
> Why do you think this usenet group has anything to do with google? It
> does not. If you use a proper newsreader and subscribe to a proper
> newsfeed you won't see any spam either; I don't.
>
I use a "proper" newreader (Thunderbird) and I subscribe through a real 
NNTP service.  I see lots of spam.

I also see their failed attempt to combat the spam, as a bunch of cancel 
messages which double the amount of spam ;-)

The rest of your point remains, this is not a google group.

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#20615

Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:

>  I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have found
>  this google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount of Spam
>  however, is there nothing that can be done to keep the board tidying
>  ;) 

comp.lang.javascript is NOT a Google Group,
it is a Usenet Newsgroup.

Please do not use Google to post here, 
Google is very buggy,
use a dedicated News Server,
and install a decent newsreader.

Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
decent newsreaders do dit for you automagically.

Make yourself a signature under a line with --spacereturn

... and of course, RDBF.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#20616

On Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:37:14 UTC+1, Evertjan.  wrote:
> Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
> 
> 
> 
> >  I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have found
> 
> >  this google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount of Spam
> 
> >  however, is there nothing that can be done to keep the board tidying
> 
> >  ;) 
> 
> 
> 
> comp.lang.javascript is NOT a Google Group,
> 
> it is a Usenet Newsgroup.
> 
> 
> 
> Please do not use Google to post here, 
> 
> Google is very buggy,
> 
> use a dedicated News Server,
> 
> and install a decent newsreader.
> 
> 
> 
> Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
> 
> decent newsreaders do dit for you automagically.
> 
> 
> 
> Make yourself a signature under a line with --spacereturn
> 
> 
> 
> ... and of course, RDBF.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Evertjan.
> 
> The Netherlands.
> 
> (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Ah OK, sorry guys I came here through Google which do-sent make the fact this is a Usenet Newgroup clear - I will use a Newsreader in future!

Nice to meet you too by the way..

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#20623

orandaman@gmail.com wrote:


>Ah OK, sorry guys I came here through Google which doesn't make
> the fact this is a Usenet Newgroup clear - I will use a Newsreader 
>in future!

You're right, they don't make it clear.

Most (nearly all, AFAICT) the spam here comes through Google, so a
good many people have their newsreaders set to block anything from
that source.

So...you need a newsreader. For a low-cost one, check Forte Agent
(www.forteinc.com/agent). Thunderbird (www.mozilla.org/thunderbird).
There are lots of others.

For a server, check eternal september (www.eternal-september.org).
It's free. You have to register with them, and they will send you a
userid and password to put into your newsreader. They offer all the
text newsgroups, but not binaries. And they screen out *lots* of spam.
I do see some spam here (mostly selling prescription drugs without a
prescription, all of which come through Google), less than I would
otherwise. Again, others are available, search for them.

>Nice to meet you too by the way..

Welcome to the group.

-- 
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov

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#20624

Tim Slattery wrote:

> For a server, check eternal september (www.eternal-september.org).

Good advice

> It's free. You have to register with them, and they will send you a
> userid and password to put into your newsreader. They offer all the
> text newsgroups, but not binaries.

I don't know when it started, but now they also carry binaries, at least 
alt.binaries.food is in there. I think e-s has a limit of 1MB for single 
binary attachments, don't know if there's also a daily quota
-- 
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin 

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#20625

In article <vaatt8phtajlttaq6em2ig8q4fnq0puurg@4ax.com>,
 Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote:

> orandaman@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >Ah OK, sorry guys I came here through Google which doesn't make
> > the fact this is a Usenet Newgroup clear - I will use a Newsreader 
> >in future!
> 
> You're right, they don't make it clear.
> 
> Most (nearly all, AFAICT) the spam here comes through Google, so a
> good many people have their newsreaders set to block anything from
> that source.
> 
> So...you need a newsreader. For a low-cost one, check Forte Agent
> (www.forteinc.com/agent). Thunderbird (www.mozilla.org/thunderbird).
> There are lots of others.

Personally I use MT-NewsWatcher, and have for 20 years or so.

> For a server, check eternal september (www.eternal-september.org).
> It's free. You have to register with them, and they will send you a
> userid and password to put into your newsreader. They offer all the
> text newsgroups, but not binaries. And they screen out *lots* of spam.
> I do see some spam here (mostly selling prescription drugs without a
> prescription, all of which come through Google), less than I would
> otherwise. Again, others are available, search for them.

I'm on news.individual.net, they charge €10/year which is not much. It 
always seems to work.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#20617

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37:14 AM UTC+1, Evertjan. wrote:
> Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
> 
> 
> 
> >  I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have found
> 
> >  this google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount of Spam
> 
> >  however, is there nothing that can be done to keep the board tidying
> 
> >  ;) 
> 
> 
> 
> comp.lang.javascript is NOT a Google Group,
> 
> it is a Usenet Newsgroup.
> 
> 
> 
> Please do not use Google to post here, 
> 
> Google is very buggy,
> 
> use a dedicated News Server,
> 
> and install a decent newsreader.
> 
> 
> 
> Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
> 
> decent newsreaders do dit for you automagically.
> 
> 
> 
> Make yourself a signature under a line with --spacereturn
> 
> 
> 
> ... and of course, RDBF.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Evertjan.
> 
> The Netherlands.
> 
> (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

My apologies guys, I will use a newsreader from now on. Google does not make this clear!

Nice to meet you too by the way.

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#20619

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:55:29 AM UTC+1, Matt Tacchi wrote:
> On Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37:14 AM UTC+1, Evertjan. wrote:
> 
> > Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > >  I use JavaScript in my work daily so I am very pleased to have found
> 
> > 
> 
> > >  this google group. I have noticed there is a serious amount of Spam
> 
> > 
> 
> > >  however, is there nothing that can be done to keep the board tidying
> 
> > 
> 
> > >  ;) 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > comp.lang.javascript is NOT a Google Group,
> 
> > 
> 
> > it is a Usenet Newsgroup.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Please do not use Google to post here, 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Google is very buggy,
> 
> > 
> 
> > use a dedicated News Server,
> 
> > 
> 
> > and install a decent newsreader.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
> 
> > 
> 
> > decent newsreaders do dit for you automagically.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Make yourself a signature under a line with --spacereturn
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > ... and of course, RDBF.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > -- 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Evertjan.
> 
> > 
> 
> > The Netherlands.
> 
> > 
> 
> > (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
> 
> 
> 
> My apologies guys, I will use a newsreader from now on. Google does not make this clear!
> 
> 
> 
> Nice to meet you too by the way.

Could you kindly recommend me a newsreader please?


Many thanks

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#20620

Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:

[skip]
[please do not quote integrally] 

> Could you kindly recommend me a newsreader please?

Personally, I love XNEWS.

However make your own choice:
<http://www.newsreaders.info/recommended-newsreaders.htm>


-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#20621

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20:47 AM UTC+1, Evertjan. wrote:
> Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
> 
> 
> 
> [skip]
> 
> [please do not quote integrally] 
> 
> 
> 
> > Could you kindly recommend me a newsreader please?
> 
> 
> 
> Personally, I love XNEWS.
> 
> 
> 
> However make your own choice:
> 
> <http://www.newsreaders.info/recommended-newsreaders.htm>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Evertjan.
> 
> The Netherlands.
> 
> (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Brilliant, I appreciate the help - thanks!

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#20622

Matt Tacchi wrote:

> On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20:47 AM UTC+1, Evertjan. wrote:
>> Matt Tacchi wrote on 11 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
>> > Could you kindly recommend me a newsreader please?
>> 
>> Personally, I love XNEWS.
>> 
>> However make your own choice:
>> 
>> <http://www.newsreaders.info/recommended-newsreaders.htm>

Mozilla Thunderbird and SeaMonkey MailNews are missing from the list.  So is 
KNode.

IIRC, MT-Newswatcher is not Unicode-aware; neither is Forté *Free* Agent.

I wonder when this list was compiled.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#20647

In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FA6C0A24FEeejj99@194.109.133.133>,
Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:37:14, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
posted:

>Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,


The agreed standard recommendation for Usenet is 72, not 76.

The newsgroup FAQ says
Format lines to 72 characters; indent with 2-4 spaces (not tabs).

Please do not recommend breaches of accepted convention, and READ THE
FAQ - it is, after all, regularly posted here piece-wise.


-- 
 (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK.  ¬@merlyn.demon.co.uk   Turnpike v6.05   MIME.
   Web  <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
 Proper <= 4-line sig. separator as above, a line exactly "-- " (SonOfRFC1036)
 Do not Mail News to me. Before a reply, quote with ">" or "> " (SonOfRFC1036)

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#20649

Dr J R Stockton wrote on 13 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:

> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FA6C0A24FEeejj99@194.109.133.133>,
> Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:37:14, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
> posted:
> 
>>Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
> 
> 
> The agreed standard recommendation for Usenet is 72, not 76.
> 
> The newsgroup FAQ says
> Format lines to 72 characters; indent with 2-4 spaces (not tabs).
> 
> Please do not recommend breaches of accepted convention, and READ THE
> FAQ - it is, after all, regularly posted here piece-wise.

I tried, the FAQ was offline at that time.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#20650

On 14/07/2013 12:25, Evertjan. wrote:
> Dr J R Stockton wrote on 13 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
>
>> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FA6C0A24FEeejj99@194.109.133.133>,
>> Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:37:14, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
>> posted:
>>
>>> Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
>>
>>
>> The agreed standard recommendation for Usenet is 72, not 76.
>>
>> The newsgroup FAQ says
>> Format lines to 72 characters; indent with 2-4 spaces (not tabs).
>>
>> Please do not recommend breaches of accepted convention, and READ THE
>> FAQ - it is, after all, regularly posted here piece-wise.
>
> I tried, the FAQ was offline at that time.
>

Then you can check an slightly updated version at:
<http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/>

-- 
Joao Rodrigues

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#20656

Joao Rodrigues wrote on 14 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:

> On 14/07/2013 12:25, Evertjan. wrote:
>> Dr J R Stockton wrote on 13 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
>>
>>> In comp.lang.javascript message
>>> <XnsA1FA6C0A24FEeejj99@194.109.133.133>, Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:37:14,
>>> Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> posted:
>>>
>>>> Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
>>>
>>>
>>> The agreed standard recommendation for Usenet is 72, not 76.
>>>
>>> The newsgroup FAQ says
>>> Format lines to 72 characters; indent with 2-4 spaces (not tabs).
>>>
>>> Please do not recommend breaches of accepted convention, and READ
>>> THE FAQ - it is, after all, regularly posted here piece-wise.
>>
>> I tried, the FAQ was offline at that time.
>>
> 
> Then you can check an slightly updated version at:
> <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/>

oh yes, dears pointe taken.

I cannot have done that in retrospect, however. ;-)

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
<http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/>

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#20670

In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FDB12F5E330eejj99@194.109.133.133>
, Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:25:04, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
posted:

>Dr J R Stockton wrote on 13 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
>
>> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FA6C0A24FEeejj99@194.109.133.133>,
>> Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:37:14, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
>> posted:
>>
>>>Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
>>
>>
>> The agreed standard recommendation for Usenet is 72, not 76.
>>
>> The newsgroup FAQ says
>> Format lines to 72 characters; indent with 2-4 spaces (not tabs).
>>
>> Please do not recommend breaches of accepted convention, and READ THE
>> FAQ - it is, after all, regularly posted here piece-wise.
>
>I tried, the FAQ was offline at that time.

It has that habit.  But it is easy to keep a copy, and, if desired, to
use one's own stylesheet with it.  Regulars, of course, should memorise
the common parts.

<FAQENTRY>
Readers should keep a local copy of this FAQ (reasons).
</FAQENTRY>


-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK.   E-mail, see Home Page.    Turnpike v6.05.
 Website  <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
 PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
 Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

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#20742

On 15/07/2013 14:01, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FDB12F5E330eejj99@194.109.133.133>
> , Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:25:04, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
> posted:
>
>> Dr J R Stockton wrote on 13 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
>>
>>> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA1FA6C0A24FEeejj99@194.109.133.133>,
>>> Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:37:14, Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
>>> posted:
>>>
>>>> Keep your lines shorter than 76 characters,
>>>
>>>
>>> The agreed standard recommendation for Usenet is 72, not 76.
>>>
>>> The newsgroup FAQ says
>>> Format lines to 72 characters; indent with 2-4 spaces (not tabs).
>>>
>>> Please do not recommend breaches of accepted convention, and READ THE
>>> FAQ - it is, after all, regularly posted here piece-wise.
>>
>> I tried, the FAQ was offline at that time.
>
> It has that habit.  But it is easy to keep a copy, and, if desired, to
> use one's own stylesheet with it.  Regulars, of course, should memorise
> the common parts.
>
> <FAQENTRY>
> Readers should keep a local copy of this FAQ (reasons).
> </FAQENTRY>
>
>

I take the FAQ with me everywhere I go: I'm using Evernote.

-- 
Joao Rodrigues

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#20753

Joao Rodrigues wrote on 20 jul 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:

>> <FAQENTRY>
>> Readers should keep a local copy of this FAQ (reasons).
>> </FAQENTRY>
>>
> 
> I take the FAQ with me everywhere I go: I'm using Evernote.

Everywhere?

Someplace I frequently and unquestionally go, 
I unaskedly prefer using WC paper.

Oh, sorry, now our transponders are shocked.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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