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  fullscreen problem Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-06 17:21 +1000
    Re: fullscreen problem Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-06 12:16 +0200
      Re: fullscreen problem Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-07 07:14 +1000
        Re: fullscreen problem "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-04-06 23:34 +0200
        Re: fullscreen problem Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-07 00:27 +0200
          Re: fullscreen problem "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-04-06 16:16 -0700
            Re: fullscreen problem "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-04-07 09:00 +0200
            Re: fullscreen problem Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-07 13:38 +0200
              Re: fullscreen problem "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-04-08 13:27 -0700
                Re: fullscreen problem "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-04-09 12:02 +0200
                  Re: fullscreen problem "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-04-09 13:33 -0700
                    Re: fullscreen problem "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-04-09 23:36 +0200
              Re: fullscreen problem Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-09 14:44 +1000
                Re: fullscreen problem Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-09 12:56 +0200
        Re: fullscreen problem "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-04-08 13:32 -0700
    Re: fullscreen problem Maik Koenig <usenetspam@maikkoenig.de> - 2017-04-06 12:56 +0200
      Re: fullscreen problem Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-09 15:50 +0200

#32945 — fullscreen problem

I'm working on a page which includes a button that resize the window to 
fullscreen size. The content in the window resize themselves 
appropriately in Chrome, Firefox, and Edge but not IE.

The fullscreen feature is a "nice to have" so instead of spending the 
time to get it working the client has asked me to just remove the button 
for IE 11-.

I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer 
supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?

Andrew Poulos

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#32946

Andrew Poulos wrote:

> I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer
> supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?

How long have you STFW and what have you searched it for?

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#32949

On 6/04/2017 8:16 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Andrew Poulos wrote:
>
>> I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer
>> supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?
>
> How long have you STFW and what have you searched it for?

I asked a simple enough question. Why not:
a. answer the question, or
b. ignore the question, or
c. not reply with insults?

I searched. I found: one site that claims conditional comments still 
work; a number of sites that use the navigator object; and, one site 
that used a media query I didn't want to parse the navigator object and 
I couldn't find an unambiguous answer.

Andrew Poulos

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#32950

Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> wrote on 06 Apr 2017 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

> On 6/04/2017 8:16 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Andrew Poulos wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer
>>> supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?
>>
>> How long have you STFW and what have you searched it for?
> 
> I asked a simple enough question. Why not:
> a. answer the question, or
> b. ignore the question, or
> c. not reply with insults?

I do not see an insult here.
 
> I searched. I found: one site that claims conditional comments still 
> work; a number of sites that use the navigator object; and, one site 
> that used a media query I didn't want to parse the navigator object and 
> I couldn't find an unambiguous answer.

Unambiguous answers on the web, you must be dreaming!

Why not just try out what you found?

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#32952

Andrew Poulos wrote:

> On 6/04/2017 8:16 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Andrew Poulos wrote:
>>> I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer
>>> supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?
>>
>> How long have you STFW and what have you searched it for?
> 
> I asked a simple enough question. Why not:
> a. answer the question, or

Indeed, why don’t you?

> b. ignore the question, or

I thought you needed help and I was inclined to provide it.

> c. not reply with insults?

There was no insult.  How did you get that idea?
 
> I searched.

Again: For how long and for what (using which keywords)?

> I found: one site that claims conditional comments still
> work; a number of sites that use the navigator object; and, one site
> that used a media query I didn't want to parse the navigator object and
> I couldn't find an unambiguous answer.

The fact aside that all those are unsourced, therefore next-to-useless to 
people willing to help you: Why oh why have you not said at least this in 
the first place?

Please *read* and *follow*
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>.

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#32953

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Andrew Poulos wrote:

> > c. not reply with insults?
> 
> There was no insult.  How did you get that idea?

"STFW"

First thought in my mind and possible in his as well was that this was an initialization for: 

Search The *Fucking* Web

vs. 

Search The *Fine* Web

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#32958

"Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> wrote on 07 Apr 2017 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Andrew Poulos wrote:
> 
>> > c. not reply with insults?
>> 
>> There was no insult.  How did you get that idea?
> 
> "STFW"
> 
> First thought in my mind and possible in his as well was that this was
> an initialization for: 
> 
> Search The *Fucking* Web

Perhaps that is an insult to the web?

Why be bothered by that, unless it is some childhood indoctrination?

[..]

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#32961

Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Andrew Poulos wrote:
>> > c. not reply with insults?
>> There was no insult.  How did you get that idea?
> 
> "STFW"
> 
> First thought in my mind and possible in his as well was that this was an
> initialization for:
> 
> Search The *Fucking* Web
> 
> vs.
> 
> Search The *Fine* Web

In any case, how can it be an insult of the OP?  If anyone or anything could 
feel insulted here, it is the Web; not the person who might have failed to 
search it.

Besides, there is no offense where none is taken.  Please stick to the 
facts.

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#32968

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> In any case, how can it be an insult of the OP?  If anyone or anything could 
> feel insulted here, it is the Web; not the person who might have failed to 
> search it.

*chuckle* 

Maybe it's just an American thing, but usage #2 is offensive <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fucking#Adjective>

> Besides, there is no offense where none is taken.  Please stick to the 
> facts.

True

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#32971

"Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> wrote on 08 Apr 2017 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
>> In any case, how can it be an insult of the OP?  If anyone or anything
>> could feel insulted here, it is the Web; not the person who might have
>> failed to search it.
> 
> *chuckle* 
> 
> Maybe it's just an American thing,

Well, this is NOT an American NG, 

... and English is not specifically an American owned language, 

... and even "American", in the meaning of USAian, could very well be 
offensive to Canadians and/or Patagonians,

> but usage #2 is offensive

> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fucking#Adjective> 

... and NOT SO, even this "fucking adjective" is only described as offensive 
if applied to something you own of perhaps are,

... and Wiktionary is not proof in itself.

... and THEN, unless you are describing the factual act as in "your fucking 
daughter"?

... and finally what is wrong with being offensive, 
unless perhaps if you are a so-called non-patagonian "American",
or its president?

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The Netherlands.
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#32980

 Evertjan. wrote:
> "Michael Haufe (TNO)" wrote: 

> > Maybe it's just an American thing,
> 
> Well, this is NOT an American NG, 
> 
> ... and English is not specifically an American owned language, 

...and? That doesn't mean none use this NG, and as such those who do bring their linguistic baggage with them. For example: If I used the word "fanny" with the intent of being polite, it wouldn't translate well in other places.

> ... and even "American", in the meaning of USAian, could very well be 
> offensive to Canadians and/or Patagonians,

Yes, but I'm indifferent towards those with such an opinion. I have neither the time nor inclination to care about every potentially offended person in my hemisphere. My masochism has its limits.

> > but usage #2 is offensive
> 
> > <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fucking#Adjective> 
> 
> ... and NOT SO, even this "fucking adjective" is only described as offensive 
> if applied to something you own of perhaps are,
> 
> ... and Wiktionary is not proof in itself.

"STFW" for additional dictionaries if you please.

> ... and finally what is wrong with being offensive,

It can complicate social interactions. The middle ground is "tolerance"

> unless perhaps if you are a so-called non-patagonian "American",
> or its president?

I fail to see the relevance

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#32982

"Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> wrote on 09 Apr 2017 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

>> ... and finally what is wrong with being offensive,
> 
> It can complicate social interactions.

I for one like complicated interactions.

> The middle ground is "tolerance"

Tolerance is a behavour, not an intolerant expectancy.

The list of words that are added to the American intolerance for so called 
offensiveness, is growing every day, the peep-sounds even permeate in our 
telly, when American footage is aired, and the idiotic expectancy is that 
other people will have to follow it.

The usage of writing F*ck instead of plain Fuck seems downright silly as 
seen from this side of the big pond, is that really making it less offensive 
to you [general you]?

if ( true === false ) alert('Do n*t al*rt us, pl*se');

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#32970

On 7/04/2017 9:38 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> Andrew Poulos wrote:
>>>> c. not reply with insults?
>>> There was no insult.  How did you get that idea?
>>
>> "STFW"
>>
>> First thought in my mind and possible in his as well was that this was an
>> initialization for:
>>
>> Search The *Fucking* Web
>>
>> vs.
>>
>> Search The *Fine* Web
>
> In any case, how can it be an insult of the OP?  If anyone or anything could
> feel insulted here, it is the Web; not the person who might have failed to
> search it.

1. I never said I had been insulted
2. A person can feel insulted even if someone else deem feeling that way 
to be inappropriate/illogical.
3. I have very learned friends who are also very rarely "wrong" yet they 
are estranged from their own families.

Andrew Poulos

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#32973

Andrew Poulos wrote:

> On 7/04/2017 9:38 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
>>> [STFW]
>>
>> In any case, how can it be an insult of the OP?  If anyone or anything
>> could feel insulted here, it is the Web; not the person who might have
>> failed to search it.
> 
> 1. I never said I had been insulted

But you acted and you are still acting as if it were so.  Why?

> 2. A person can feel insulted even if someone else deem feeling that way
> to be inappropriate/illogical.

As I indicated, then that is that person’s problem.

> 3. I have very learned friends who are also very rarely "wrong" yet they
> are estranged from their own families.

What is that supposed to mean?

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#32969

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 4:14:41 PM UTC-5, Andrew Poulos wrote:

> I searched. I found: one site that claims conditional comments still 
> work; a number of sites that use the navigator object; and, one site 
> that used a media query I didn't want to parse the navigator object and 
> I couldn't find an unambiguous answer.

Since the client doesn't want you to spend the time to do it properly, just throw in a quick hack with a comment lamenting your situation:

1. just use the navigator object.
2. use a questionable indirect inference that will probably be IE 10+ (some CSS property or host environment property)

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#32947

Am 06.04.2017 um 09:21 schrieb Andrew Poulos:
> I'm working on a page which includes a button that resize the window to 
> fullscreen size. The content in the window resize themselves 
> appropriately in Chrome, Firefox, and Edge but not IE.
> 
> The fullscreen feature is a "nice to have" so instead of spending the 
> time to get it working the client has asked me to just remove the button 
> for IE 11-.
> 
> I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer 
> supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?

https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/obj_navigator.asp


Greetz,
MK
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#32975

Maik Koenig wrote:

> Am 06.04.2017 um 09:21 schrieb Andrew Poulos:
>> I was thinking of using conditional comments but they are no longer
>> supported in IE 10+. How else can I detect IE and hide the button?
> 
> https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/obj_navigator.asp

You should not mistake w3schools.com for a reliable reference on
Web development.  To begin with, it has nothing to do with the W3C.

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