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  Why is this returning NaN "Tony" <tony.johansson@inport.com> - 2013-02-26 11:54 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-26 12:09 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-02-26 13:45 +0200
      Re: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 00:45 -0300
        Re: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 01:13 -0300
          Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 12:48 +0100
        Re: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-01 10:06 +0100
        Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 12:46 +0100
          Re: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-01 14:19 +0000
          Re: Why is this returning NaN "Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)" <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 12:01 -0300
            Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 21:03 +0100
              Re: Why is this returning NaN "Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)" <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-01 18:25 -0300
                Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 22:35 +0100
                  Re: Why is this returning NaN Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2013-03-01 20:31 -0800
                    Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-02 12:49 +0100
                    Re: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-03 12:32 -0300
                      Re: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-03 18:03 +0100
                        Re: Why is this returning NaN Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-03-03 10:16 -0700
                        OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-03-03 20:35 +0100
                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-03-03 21:43 +0200
                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-03 19:45 +0000
                          "javascript" (was: OT: "javascript") Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-03 21:09 +0100
                            Re: "javascript" "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-03 23:19 -0300
                              Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-04 11:27 +0100
                              Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-04 13:09 +0000
                                Re: "javascript" Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-03-10 20:50 +0100
                                  Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 20:29 +0000
                                    Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-10 23:23 +0100
                                      Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 22:48 +0000
                                        Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-10 23:53 +0100
                                          Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 23:23 +0000
                                            Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-11 02:57 +0100
                                              Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-11 08:55 +0000
                                                Re: "javascript" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-11 17:38 +0100
                                              Re: "javascript" Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-12 19:29 +0000
                                                Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-13 14:36 +1100
                                                  Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-13 15:20 +0000
                                                    Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-14 11:18 +1100
                                                      Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-14 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-15 07:02 +1100
                                                          Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-15 10:28 +0000
                                                            Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-16 07:17 +1100
                                                              Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-16 12:04 +0000
                                                                Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-17 08:17 +1100
                                                                  Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-17 11:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-17 23:15 +1100
                                                                      Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-17 16:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-18 07:47 +1100
                                                                          Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-18 15:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-19 07:34 +1100
                                                                              Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-19 15:04 +0000
                                                                                Re: "javascript" Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-20 07:40 +1100
                                                Re: "javascript" Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> - 2013-03-13 12:03 +0000
                                                  Re: "javascript" Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-14 21:22 +0000
                                                    Re: "javascript" Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> - 2013-03-15 01:44 +0000
                                                      Re: "javascript" Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-16 19:42 +0000
                                                        Re: "javascript" Mike Duffy <Use.web.form@website_in_sig.com> - 2013-03-17 18:25 +0000
                                                          Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-17 19:01 +0000
                                                    Re: "javascript" Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-03-15 10:55 -0700
                                            Re: "javascript" John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-13 15:21 +0000
                            Re: "javascript" (was: OT: "javascript") Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-04 13:07 +0000
                            Re: "javascript" Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-03-10 20:34 +0100
                              Re: "javascript" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-10 19:39 +0000
                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-03-03 22:41 -0300
                            Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-04 09:57 +0100
                            Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-04 11:25 +0100
                            Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-04 14:52 +0000
                              Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-10 01:02 +0100
                                Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-10 10:52 +0000
                                  Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-10 12:44 +0100
                                    Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-10 17:49 +0000
                                      Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-20 01:21 +0100
                                        Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-03-20 15:25 +0000
                                          Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-30 01:28 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-02-26 12:00 +0000
      Re: Why is this returning NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-26 18:07 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-02-26 13:42 +0100
    Re: Why is this returning NaN Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-27 20:43 +0000
      Re: Why is this returning NaN "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-02-28 09:19 +0100

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#18697 — Re: OT: "javascript" was: Why is this returning NaN

In article <kh08k8$e5v$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote:

> You're probably referring to Thomas Lahn as these sources, but he'd
> never said, that JavaScript doesn't exist, but that there is neither
> javascript nor Javascript.  Note the capitalization.
> 
> As ECMAScript is a case-sensitive language, and `JavaScript' and
> `javascript' designate different identifiers,

When used within a JavaScript program ...

> one can easily agree with Thomas.

No, one considers him a (rude) fusspot because this point is trivially 
unimportant.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18699 — "javascript" (was: OT: "javascript")

Christoph Becker wrote:

> Evertjan. wrote:
>>> Brendan Eich, the creator of JavaScript,
>> According to sources on this NG,
>> he cannot have created that
>> that as it did and does not exist.
> 
> You're probably referring to Thomas Lahn as these sources, but he'd
> never said, that JavaScript doesn't exist, but that there is neither
> javascript nor Javascript.  Note the capitalization.

ACK.  However, it is *not* *just* a matter of letter case, as I have 
emphasized in the “Foreword and Rationale” section of the ECMAScript Support 
Matrix [1] (updated 2013-02-16).  That will become more apparent later.

> As ECMAScript is a case-sensitive language, and `JavaScript' and
> `javascript' designate different identifiers, one can easily agree with
> Thomas. 

It is not a good strategy to attempt to refute fallacies with another 
fallacy.  That ECMAScript as a programming language is case-sensitive has 
nothing to do with “javascript” and “Javascript” being misleading terms.

> OTOH it's contradictory to read in this NG's FAQ:

I am aware of that.

> | The term "javascript" is used as a common name for all dialects of
> | ECMAScript.[1][2]
> 
> [1] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#ecma>

That resource is no longer maintained since more than two years, and it is 
frequently offline.

> [2] <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#ecma>

I am working on that.

I fail to see how so basic an issue as the terminology for these languages, 
and the FAQ of/for this newsgroup, can be off-topic here.  See the new 
Subject also for an example how a proper change of Subject is done on Usenet 
(speakers of German may refer to the “Netiquette für "de.*"”, item 7).  TIA.

________
[1] <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix/>
-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#18702 — Re: "javascript"

On 03/03/2013 17:09, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Christoph Becker wrote:
>> OTOH it's contradictory to read in this NG's FAQ:
>
> I am aware of that.
>
>> | The term "javascript" is used as a common name for all dialects of
>> | ECMAScript.[1][2]
>>
>> [1] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#ecma>
>
> That resource is no longer maintained since more than two years, and it is
> frequently offline.
>
>> [2] <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#ecma>
>
> I am working on that.

OMG. They set the fox to guard the hen house...

-- 
Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)

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#18711 — Re: "javascript"

J.R. wrote:

> On 03/03/2013 17:09, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Christoph Becker wrote:
>>> OTOH it's contradictory to read in this NG's FAQ:
>>
>> I am aware of that.
>>
>>> | The term "javascript" is used as a common name for all dialects of
>>> | ECMAScript.[1][2]
>>>
>>> [1] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#ecma>
>>
>> That resource is no longer maintained since more than two years, and it
>> is frequently offline.
>>
>>> [2] <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#ecma>
>>
>> I am working on that.
> 
> OMG. They set the fox to guard the hen house...

And for once I thought you could do without trolling…

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#18712 — Re: "javascript"

In article <kh10bd$ef5$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> wrote:

> On 03/03/2013 17:09, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > Christoph Becker wrote:
> >> OTOH it's contradictory to read in this NG's FAQ:
> >
> > I am aware of that.
> >
> >> | The term "javascript" is used as a common name for all dialects of
> >> | ECMAScript.[1][2]
> >>
> >> [1] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#ecma>
> >
> > That resource is no longer maintained since more than two years, and it is
> > frequently offline.
> >
> >> [2] <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#ecma>
> >
> > I am working on that.
> 
> OMG. They set the fox to guard the hen house...

Well, he can work on it all he likes, it's a matter of indifference to 
me.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18824 — Re: "javascript"

Tim Streater wrote:

> In article <kh10bd$ef5$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
> 
>> On 03/03/2013 17:09, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> > Christoph Becker wrote:
>> >> [1] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#ecma>
>> >
>> > That resource is no longer maintained since more than two years, and
>> it is
>> > frequently offline.
>> >
>> >> [2] <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#ecma>
>> >
>> > I am working on that.
>>
>> OMG. They set the fox to guard the hen house...
> 
> Well, he can work on it all he likes, it's a matter of indifference to me.

Do you prefer having a daily post of at least partially outdated
information in this NG?

There was a long discussion about the new maintainer of the FAQ not long
ago, and unfortunately there was no consent.  And currently it seems
only Thomas still cares actively about this issue.  I have no doubt,
that he's capable to bring the FAQ up to date and to improve it.

-- 
Christoph M. Becker

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#18825 — Re: "javascript"

In article <khio41$qvp$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote:

> Tim Streater wrote:
> 
> > In article <kh10bd$ef5$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 03/03/2013 17:09, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >> > Christoph Becker wrote:
> >> >> [1] <http://jibbering.com/faq/#ecma>
> >> >
> >> > That resource is no longer maintained since more than two years, and
> >> it is
> >> > frequently offline.
> >> >
> >> >> [2] <http://pointedears.de/scripts/faq/cljs/#ecma>
> >> >
> >> > I am working on that.
> >>
> >> OMG. They set the fox to guard the hen house...
> > 
> > Well, he can work on it all he likes, it's a matter of indifference to me.
> 
> Do you prefer having a daily post of at least partially outdated
> information in this NG?

It should be turned off.

> There was a long discussion about the new maintainer of the FAQ not long
> ago, and unfortunately there was no consent.  And currently it seems
> only Thomas still cares actively about this issue.  I have no doubt,
> that he's capable to bring the FAQ up to date and to improve it.

One might conclude then, that it's a waste of time. Unfortunately Thomas 
will, having worked on it, then refer to it as "the FAQ", as though it 
has some official status to support his foolish opinions.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18826 — Re: "javascript"

Tim Streater wrote:

>  Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote:
>> There was a long discussion about the new maintainer of the FAQ not long
>> ago, and unfortunately there was no consent.  And currently it seems
>> only Thomas still cares actively about this issue.  I have no doubt,
>> that he's capable to bring the FAQ up to date and to improve it.
> 
> One might conclude then, that it's a waste of time. Unfortunately Thomas
> will, having worked on it, then refer to it as "the FAQ", as though it
> has some official status

No, not like this.  Reading really does not appear to be your strong suit.

> to support his foolish opinions.

Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer 
science.

What about yours?

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#18827 — Re: "javascript"

In article <3219665.Rz8ucZSLag@PointedEars.de>,
 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

> Tim Streater wrote:
> 
> >  Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> There was a long discussion about the new maintainer of the FAQ not long
> >> ago, and unfortunately there was no consent.  And currently it seems
> >> only Thomas still cares actively about this issue.  I have no doubt,
> >> that he's capable to bring the FAQ up to date and to improve it.
> > 
> > One might conclude then, that it's a waste of time. Unfortunately Thomas
> > will, having worked on it, then refer to it as "the FAQ", as though it
> > has some official status
> 
> No, not like this.  Reading really does not appear to be your strong suit.
> 
> > to support his foolish opinions.
> 
> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer 
> science.
> 
> What about yours?

Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18828 — Re: "javascript"

Tim Streater wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>> > to support his foolish opinions.
>> 
>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>> science.
>> 
>> What about yours?
> 
> Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.

I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing 
research for my work.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#18829 — Re: "javascript"

In article <16846859.p7m99IjeGU@PointedEars.de>,
 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

> Tim Streater wrote:
> 
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> >> Tim Streater wrote:
> >> > to support his foolish opinions.
> >> 
> >> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
> >> science.
> >> 
> >> What about yours?
> > 
> > Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
> 
> I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing 
> research for my work.

Are you calling me a liar? DIC Imperial College 1970 (Computing and 
Control: Computing Science).

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18831 — Re: "javascript"

Tim Streater wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> >> Tim Streater wrote:
>> >> > to support his foolish opinions.
>> >> 
>> >> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>> >> science.
>> >> 
>> >> What about yours?
>> > 
>> > Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
>> 
>> I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing
>> research for my work.
> 
> Are you calling me a liar? […]

No, I am just saying that it is highly unlikely that your work is related to 
the topic of this newsgroup, while mine definitely is.  Insofar it might be 
a wiser course of action for you not to discount my opinions on this matter 
as quickly and as impolitely as you did.

HTH

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#18834 — Re: "javascript"

In article <3004011.yEM36atlHq@PointedEars.de>,
 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

> Tim Streater wrote:
> 
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> >> Tim Streater wrote:
> >> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> >> >> Tim Streater wrote:
> >> >> > to support his foolish opinions.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
> >> >> science.
> >> >> 
> >> >> What about yours?
> >> > 
> >> > Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
> >> 
> >> I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing
> >> research for my work.
> > 
> > Are you calling me a liar? […]
> 
> No, I am just saying that it is highly unlikely that your work is related to 
> the topic of this newsgroup, while mine definitely is.

No, that's *not* what you said, and you are now wriggling.

Not that it matters, other than to confirm my opinion. In 40 years in 
the workplace, asking about others' qualifications was very rare.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#18843 — Re: "javascript"

Tim Streater wrote:

>  Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> >> Tim Streater wrote:
>> >> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> >> >> Tim Streater wrote:
>> >> >> > to support his foolish opinions.
>> >> >> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in
>> >> >> computer science.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> What about yours?
>> >> > 
>> >> > Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
>> >> I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing
>> >> research for my work.
>> > Are you calling me a liar? […]
>> No, I am just saying that it is highly unlikely that your work is related
>> to the topic of this newsgroup, while mine definitely is.
> 
> No, that's *not* what you said,

But it is, if you read more carefully.  It is also what I meant.

> and you are now wriggling.

Or you are just trolling.

> Not that it matters, other than to confirm my opinion. In 40 years in
> the workplace, asking about others' qualifications was very rare.

Actio = reactio.  Calling others’ opinions “foolish”, without backing up 
*your* humble opinion, got you that.

Oh well, at least you cannot blame me for not trying to reason with you.  
But the feeding stops here.

EOD

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#18852 — Re: "javascript"

In comp.lang.javascript message <3004011.yEM36atlHq@PointedEars.de>,
Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:57:00, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> posted:

>Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>> >> Tim Streater wrote:
>>> >> > to support his foolish opinions.
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>>> >> science.
>>> >>
>>> >> What about yours?
>>> >
>>> > Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
>>>
>>> I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing
>>> research for my work.
>>
>> Are you calling me a liar? […]
>
>No, I am just saying that it is highly unlikely that your work is related to
>the topic of this newsgroup, while mine definitely is.  Insofar it might be
>a wiser course of action for you not to discount my opinions on this matter
>as quickly and as impolitely as you did.


There is an important difference.  Tim went to a world-renowned
university, one where (if necessary) one also can learn civilised
behaviour.  You, I believe, were at a jumped-up polytechnic in an
insignificant town - and evidently did not.

Tim's place, according to THE et al, is well above the best University
in a German-speaking country (FIT Zurich), which is above Lausanne Poly
(French speaking?).  The best in Germany is LMU Munich, near the bottom
of the THE Top 50 and below the best in Sweden or even Scotland.  But
the top end of that list is not entirely reliable.

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#18857 — Re: "javascript"

On 13/03/2013 6:29 AM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
> In comp.lang.javascript message <3004011.yEM36atlHq@PointedEars.de>,
> Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:57:00, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> <PointedEars@web.de> posted:
>
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>>>>> to support his foolish opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>>>>>> science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about yours?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mine earned me a post-grad degree in computer science.
>>>>
>>>> I do not think so.  I would otherwise have found your work when doing
>>>> research for my work.
>>>
>>> Are you calling me a liar? […]
>>
>> No, I am just saying that it is highly unlikely that your work is related to
>> the topic of this newsgroup, while mine definitely is.  Insofar it might be
>> a wiser course of action for you not to discount my opinions on this matter
>> as quickly and as impolitely as you did.
>
> There is an important difference.  Tim went to a world-renowned
> university, one where (if necessary) one also can learn civilised
> behaviour.  You, I believe, were at a jumped-up polytechnic in an
> insignificant town - and evidently did not.

Wow, I never realised simply attending at an institution means you 
understand a particular topic better than anyone else in the world 
(except for others who attend the same institution).

> Tim's place, according to THE et al, is well above the best University
> in a German-speaking country (FIT Zurich), which is above Lausanne Poly
> (French speaking?).  The best in Germany is LMU Munich, near the bottom
> of the THE Top 50 and below the best in Sweden or even Scotland.  But
> the top end of that list is not entirely reliable.

Its funny, you disapprove of PE's behaviour yet your responses to his 
posts always seem to border on the vulgar and/or repulsive.

Andrew Poulos

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#18863 — Re: "javascript"

In message <F72dnXYlstjMaaLMnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:
>On 13/03/2013 6:29 AM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:

  <snip>
>> There is an important difference.  Tim went to a world-renowned
>> university, one where (if necessary) one also can learn civilised
>> behaviour.  You, I believe, were at a jumped-up polytechnic in an
>> insignificant town - and evidently did not.
>
>Wow, I never realised simply attending at an institution means you
>understand a particular topic better than anyone else in the world
>(except for others who attend the same institution).
  <snip>

Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :

<quote>
Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
science.

What about yours?
</quote>

  John
-- 
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#18884 — Re: "javascript"

On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <F72dnXYlstjMaaLMnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 13/03/2013 6:29 AM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>
>    <snip>
>>> There is an important difference.  Tim went to a world-renowned
>>> university, one where (if necessary) one also can learn civilised
>>> behaviour.  You, I believe, were at a jumped-up polytechnic in an
>>> insignificant town - and evidently did not.
>>
>> Wow, I never realised simply attending at an institution means you
>> understand a particular topic better than anyone else in the world
>> (except for others who attend the same institution).
>    <snip>
>
> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>
> <quote>
> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
> science.
>
> What about yours?
> </quote>

PE stated a fact while JRS stated some BS that, basically, the quality 
of  person's technical understanding is directly related to the "rating" 
of the institution attended.

Andrew Poulos

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#18885 — Re: "javascript"

In message <NYmdnbWsCvDvitzMnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
Poulos wrote:
>On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:

  <snip>
>> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>>
>> <quote>
>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>> science.
>>
>> What about yours?
>> </quote>
>
>PE stated a fact
  <snip>

I very much doubt it. Thomas behaves as though taught by the proverbial
martinet of a German Professor. He would have failed if he didn't write
down the *professor's* opinions in the exams.

  John
-- 
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#18895 — Re: "javascript"

On 14/03/2013 9:43 PM, John G Harris wrote:
> In message <NYmdnbWsCvDvitzMnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Andrew
> Poulos wrote:
>> On 14/03/2013 2:20 AM, John G Harris wrote:
>
>    <snip>
>>> Come off it - Thomas started it by writing :
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Well, *my* foolish opinions earned me a university degree in computer
>>> science.
>>>
>>> What about yours?
>>> </quote>
>>
>> PE stated a fact
>    <snip>
>
> I very much doubt it. Thomas behaves as though taught by the proverbial
> martinet of a German Professor. He would have failed if he didn't write
> down the *professor's* opinions in the exams.

Why do you doubt that he has a degree?

Andrew Poulos

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