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Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV

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bit-naughty wrote:
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:32:58 PM UTC+5:30, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> 
>> That's utter bullshit, but the really devastating bullshit is to think
>> that JS is an OO language: it is not, it is the opposite of it.

> 
> Can you please, coolly and from the beginning, explain what you mean by this? I'm not a *complete* idiot about OOP, I recently read a book about it - however that book was quite old, and as a telling fact, it's index did not have either the word "new" or the word "this" in it!!!!! (which is what I fucking BOUGHT IT FOR!!).

One cannot explain the inexplicable. You may simply ignore any rumors, 
innuendos, hearsay about JavaScript (JS) opposing the ECMAScript 
Language Specification, particularly the overview section [1].

You may safely stick to what Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript, has 
written [2] and spoken [3] about it.

In a nutshell, JavaScript is a prototype-based, multi-paradigm scripting 
language that is dynamic, and supports object-oriented, imperative, and 
functional programming styles [4].

[1] <https://tc39.github.io/ecma262/#sec-overview>

[2] <https://brendaneich.com/2008/04/popularity/>
     "I’m not proud, but I’m happy that I chose Scheme-ish first-class 
functions and Self-ish (albeit singular) prototypes as the main 
ingredients. The Java influences, especially y2k Date bugs but also the 
primitive vs. object distinction (e.g., string vs. String), were 
unfortunate."

[3] Interview with Brendan Eich – The Origin of JavaScript 
<https://devchat.tv/js-jabber/124-jsj-the-origin-of-javascript-with-brendan-eich>

     "32:55 - BRENDAN:  "[...] people say JavaScript is powered by Self. 
There was very little Self in fact, because I had so little time. And 
Self has things like lexical scope, so you have no conflation of objects 
and scope ribs, *which JavaScript had and has due to the global object* 
[...]. But I did at least have the sense to make functions first class, 
which Self does, Lisp does. And I realized if I didn’t do that, I didn’t 
have much. I was in such a rush. It was ten days until the demo in front 
of the Engineering team. And I thought, “How am I going to do this and 
make it useful?” I had to lean on a very few concepts that were 
powerful. One was functions, [...] and closures were only latently there 
in the very first version, the other was *objects you could create ad hoc*."

[4] 
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/About_JavaScript>


> 
> Still...... just *talk*, will ya? (No fighting, guys.)
> 

That reminds me of "Imagine", by John Lennon :-)


-- 
Joao Rodrigues

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Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-22 21:47 -0700
  Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-23 12:08 +0200
    Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-23 23:19 -0700
      Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-24 08:58 +0200
        Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-24 08:55 +0100
        Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-24 23:16 -0700
          Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2017-08-25 09:04 +0000
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-25 15:54 +0100
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-27 23:43 -0700
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-28 11:04 +0100
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-28 04:02 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-28 06:24 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-28 07:42 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 06:45 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-28 15:13 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-28 07:30 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-29 10:11 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 07:00 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-30 18:24 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 06:57 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 06:51 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-09-02 11:18 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2017-09-11 19:57 -0300
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-09-12 05:30 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-12 14:37 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-09-12 06:15 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-12 15:44 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-09-12 14:51 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-12 16:38 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-09-12 20:20 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-13 18:47 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-13 01:20 -0300
          Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-25 14:33 +0200
          Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2017-08-26 21:21 +0100
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 03:16 +0200
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2017-08-27 11:40 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-27 04:05 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 16:15 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 16:27 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-27 15:42 +0100
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-27 14:10 +0100
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-27 15:40 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-28 10:50 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-28 22:35 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-28 22:53 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-29 00:27 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-29 10:16 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-29 23:05 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-29 22:51 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-30 00:29 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-30 16:33 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-29 09:57 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-29 18:05 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-30 16:33 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-30 21:43 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-31 10:08 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-31 16:40 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-31 18:37 +0100

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