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Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP)

From Scott Sauyet <scott@sauyet.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP)
Date 2017-01-02 03:55 +0000
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Evertjan. wrote:
> Andrew Poulos wrot:

>> When hoi polloi is used in English it can have other meanings as well
>> including "ordinary people", "the common people", "multitude", "the
>> masses", "the snobby elite"...
 
> "Used in English" does not mean "actually means".
> 
> There are many foreign frases that are misused in English by miniglots.

I believe this is incorrect.  English borrows heavily from other 
languages.  There are so many that it's hard to even begin counting, but 
obviously French, Latin, Greek, German, and Yiddish have all had strong 
influences.

The fact that a word or phrase originally found in another language has 
made its way into English does not imply that it must have the same 
meaning in English that it did there.  Presumably there would be a 
historical trail one might trace from one meaning to the next, but the 
changes could be drastic; the current meaning(s) in English might be far 
from, or even contrary to the meaning(s) in the original language.

Fighting against this is attempting to hold language static, when in 
truth it is ever-changing.

  -- Scott

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Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2016-12-11 09:48 -0800
  Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2016-12-11 13:48 -0500
    Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-11 21:47 +0100
      Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-12 10:40 +0000
      Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-12 20:31 +0000
        Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-12-12 21:46 +0000
        Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-13 13:51 +0100
          Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-13 14:58 +0000
            Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-13 20:23 +0100
              Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-14 16:42 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-14 19:26 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-15 14:36 +0000
              Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-14 16:52 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-14 19:27 +0100
              Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-15 14:48 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-15 16:16 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-15 09:28 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-16 09:07 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-16 09:06 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-17 00:33 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-16 10:47 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-16 17:12 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-17 20:40 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-18 10:45 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-12-19 19:15 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-20 13:13 +1100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-20 11:39 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-21 07:03 +1100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-21 00:07 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Scott Sauyet <scott@sauyet.com> - 2017-01-02 03:55 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-01-02 12:26 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 22:39 +1100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-01-02 12:48 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-01-02 11:42 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-01-02 12:53 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-03 12:02 +1100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-01-03 11:36 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-20 11:37 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-19 09:43 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-19 19:55 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-19 16:05 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-20 11:28 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-20 09:44 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-21 00:03 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-12-20 23:08 +0000
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-21 10:03 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-20 15:24 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-21 10:01 +0100
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 10:20 -0800
                Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-22 10:59 +0100
        Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2016-12-13 11:04 -0500
          Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2016-12-13 16:16 +0000
            Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-12-13 17:26 +0100
            Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Scott Sauyet <scott@sauyet.com> - 2017-01-02 03:58 +0000
  Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2016-12-12 12:29 +0700
    Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-12 16:12 +0100
  Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Scott Sauyet <scott@sauyet.com> - 2016-12-13 02:06 +0000
  Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2016-12-14 09:33 -0800
    Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-12-14 18:47 +0100
      Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-14 22:07 +0100
    Re: Trying to understand OOP (newbie to OOP) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-14 22:17 +0100

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