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Re: jquery and hoi polloi

From "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: jquery and hoi polloi
Date 2014-12-02 23:33 +0100
Organization solani.org
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Andrew Poulos wrote:

> For years the many of the experts here have clearly explained why
> libraries like jquery are "rubbish". The FAQ even states that no library
> is endorsed by the group. Their arguments have been persuasive.
> 
> I've attended a number of interviews recently and everyone has
> specifically asked about my level of ability with jquery (which
> currently is next to zero).
> 
> So the moral of the story is, if the hoi polloi have adopted it you
> still need to learn things that experts have deemed crap.

Even though I am no expert in browser side scripting, I like to add a
comment nonetheless.

IMHO the biggest problem with libraries such as jQuery is that they
obscure what's going on behind the scenes -- even up to the point where
beginners think that jQuery and "Javascript" are competitors when it
comes to browser scripting.  Therefore I strongly suggest that beginners
should avoid such libraries, and learn ECMAScript and the browser APIs
(DOM etc.) first.  When they have reached a good understanding of these,
they are able to decide if and when to use a (certain) library (if they
have the freedom), and are able to make the best use of the library.

Furthermore it seems sensible to point out that different libraries
shouldn't be lumped together -- it seems to me there are big differences
between them, and some libraries might have been able to improve over time.

-- 
Christoph M. Becker

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jquery and hoi polloi Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-12-03 08:30 +1100
  Re: jquery and hoi polloi "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-12-02 23:33 +0100
    Re: jquery and hoi polloi "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2014-12-04 21:46 -0800
      Re: jquery and hoi polloi "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-12-10 00:47 +0100
  Re: jquery and hoi polloi danca <cyberdanny@tiscalinet.it> - 2014-12-03 00:14 +0100
  Re: jquery and hoi polloi Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2014-12-03 14:47 +0100
  Re: jquery and hoi polloi Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2014-12-03 16:44 +0100
    Re: jquery and hoi polloi Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-12-04 22:06 +0100
  Re: jquery and hoi polloi RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-08 18:39 -0800
    Re: jquery and hoi polloi Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2014-12-09 13:23 -0800
      Re: jquery and hoi polloi RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-10 17:00 -0800
        Re: jquery and hoi polloi "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-12-11 03:16 +0100
          Re: jquery and hoi polloi RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-10 18:37 -0800
          Re: jquery and hoi polloi Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2014-12-11 11:08 -0800
            Re: jquery and hoi polloi "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-12-11 22:52 +0100
  Re: jquery and hoi polloi Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2014-12-16 12:56 -0800

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