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Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19)

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On 27/11/2013 20:03, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 2013-11-27 23:36, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:26:20 AM UTC-6, John Harris wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:52:02 -0800 (PST), Ry Nohryb
>>>
>>> <jo...@jorgechamorro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:05:14 PM UTC+1, Michael Haufe (TNO)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no "JavaScriptâ„¢" ;)
>>>>
>>>> The term "JavaScriptâ„¢" is used as a common name for all dialects
>>>> of ECMAScript.
>>>
>>> Have you forgotten that ECMAScript is the *core* language, not the
>>> whole of JavaScript, JScript, etc.
>>
>> You totally missed the joke here.
>
> There was no joke, really.
>
> There was some fun in saying that the term “JavaScriptâ„¢” is used as a
> common name for all dialects of ECMAScript„¢.
>
> But it was poor joke. There are no dialects of ECMAScript. ECMAScript is
> a standard. Either you comply to a standard, or you don’t. “Dialects”
> just don’t fit in.
>
> In reality, here on Earth, “JavaScript” is a vague term used to describe
> a family of programming languages, and “ECMAScript” is a (foolishly
> named, but otherwise mostly successful) attempt at standardizing
> JavaScript.
>
> If you present ECMAScript is primary and actual implementations as
> “dialects”, it’s upside-down wishful thinking that just confuses you,
> and possibly some other people.
>

In the Introduction of the 5.1 Edition / June 2011 of the ECMAScript 
Language Specification, it is written: "This Ecma Standard is based on 
several originating technologies, the most well known being JavaScript 
(Netscape) and JScript (Microsoft)."

As JavaScript and JScript came first, it is illogical to say they are 
dialects or implementations of ECMAScript. BTW, for legal reasons, Ecma 
International could not use the name “JavaScript” for its standard.

I agree with John Harris that "ECMAScript is the *core* language, not 
the whole of JavaScript, JScript, etc."

-- 
Joao Rodrigues

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FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) "FAQ server" <javascript@dotinternet.be> - 2013-11-19 00:00 +0000
  Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) dhtml <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 21:59 -0800
    Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-11-21 12:21 +0100
      Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-11-21 13:56 +0100
    Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-11-21 08:05 -0800
      Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) Ry Nohryb <jorge@jorgechamorro.com> - 2013-11-25 23:52 -0800
        Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2013-11-26 12:26 +0200
        Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-27 15:26 +0000
          Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2013-11-27 13:36 -0800
            Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-11-28 00:03 +0200
              Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-11-28 00:49 +0100
              Re: FAQ Topic - What is ECMAScript? (2013-11-19) Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-11-29 22:52 -0200

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