Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.lang.javascript > #15357
| From | "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.javascript, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html |
| Subject | Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages |
| Date | 2012-08-14 09:25 +0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <k0cr0g$m79$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <jvkv3t$3t8$1@dont-email.me> <$yDAFaGXyBIQFwui@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> <k08aq0$ikl$1@dont-email.me> <lHpWoYF1YUKQFwvW@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> <18x4oy2548iyi.1g7ob9t8kqke3.dlg@40tude.net> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
2012-08-14 8:48, tlvp wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:23:49 +0100, Dr J R Stockton wrote of ...: > >> ... a character of whose identity >> there is no doubt (an equals sign), but which in the scan has only about >> 1% of the ink that it ought to ... > > Ah, you recall to my mind the mid-20th century publications of the French > publisher Hermann -- Bourbaki, in particular, but not only -- their "equals > sign"s were astonishingly long (a good 1-em dash long) and astonishingly > razor's-edged (surely under a thousandth of an inch in breadth per stroke). > > At times you could hardly see them on the printed page. > > Think it's inappropriate to substitute a visible, modern "=" ? Why would it be inappropriate? If the text clearly contains an equals sign, then the HTMLized version should contain U+003D EQUALS SIGN, just as the letter Q should be the letter Q, no matter how decorative or exotic its appearance in the original is. Should you wish to preserve the visual appearance of glyphs, then you need to work on scanned images, not HTML. Images can be improved, using techniques that make the document partly recover from physical corruption. It is technically possible to add styling to HTML in an attempt to simulate the glyphs used in the original. Many fonts contain wide glyphs with thin strokes for the equals sign. Such design can be regarded as suited for mathematical use; compare, for example, the equals sign in Cambria Math vs. Cambria. It would be a different matter if the text contain such an equals sign *and* a different (narrower) equals sign, in a context where the general style of the text is similar. Then you might have a case for suggesting the addition of MATHEMATICAL EQUALS SIGN to Unicode, to allow disambiguation from normal equals sign. Allow eight years for acceptance and implementation (optimistically speaking). But I'm afraid it would not work: the opponents could well argument that it's still a glyph difference only, and fonts suitable for mathematical texts generally have operator symbols that are stylistically different from fonts designed for general texts. -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
Back to comp.lang.javascript | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1231@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-04 23:08 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-08-05 08:08 +0300
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1232@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-06 20:35 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-08-09 22:27 +0300
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1232@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-10 22:59 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2012-08-11 10:30 -0600
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1232@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-12 19:20 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-08-11 20:00 +0300
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1232@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-12 19:38 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-08-13 08:06 +0300
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-14 19:29 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-12 09:24 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-12 17:44 +0200
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-13 19:23 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2012-08-14 01:48 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-08-14 09:25 +0300
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2012-08-14 22:44 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-16 19:36 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-15 19:14 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-15 19:08 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-16 18:37 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-17 20:17 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-17 23:26 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-18 19:54 +0200
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-19 06:58 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-19 19:06 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-16 14:24 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-17 19:58 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-17 23:01 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1233@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-19 19:09 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-19 21:26 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1234@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-21 20:34 +0100
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2012-08-21 19:47 -0400
Re: MathJax - "typesetting" of maths in Web pages Dr J R Stockton <reply1234@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-23 19:40 +0100
csiph-web