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Re: Will there ever be a HTML tag to divide HTML documents?

Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Date 2019-06-04 00:57 -0700
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Subject Re: Will there ever be a HTML tag to divide HTML documents?
From Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>

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Den tisdag 4 juni 2019 kl. 09:49:35 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> Den tisdag 4 juni 2019 kl. 09:35:18 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> > Den tisdag 4 juni 2019 kl. 09:25:47 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> > > Den tisdag 4 juni 2019 kl. 09:23:02 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> > > > Den tisdag 4 juni 2019 kl. 09:15:00 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> > > > > Den tisdag 4 juni 2019 kl. 08:40:42 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> > > > > > Dealing with real big HTML blocks is frustrating in HTML, the only option you got is to split the document with iframe and innerHTML. And then you suddenly must hang on the origin "parent" to reach the functions you call, it add complexity when all you want to do is have neat textblocks included "frames".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I find it somehow unreasonable to add unnecessary complexity to reach local functions.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is the HTML standard fix now, iframe was not the solution i was hoping for.It may be good for other purposes but for dividing a text into logical textblocks it is practically useless if you do not want to add overhead.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I can see many people ask for a way to just divide a text into subblocks, will it ever happen?
> > > > > I mean for what i am thinking only local files in same folder necesary. It is a way to structure a textmass that becomes unreasonable large, and i simply refuse the use of <iframe> it is nonesense. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <sub text="pianoframe.html">Your document goes here</sub text>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Right now my main.html is 41 KB it is insane. And i will not go back add origin on every function call back and forth, it is ludicrous, that i have to state in which document i want to reach the function.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It is hard to beleive people looking for something that must been obvious/apparent in the first HTML draft ever released?
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?ei=NBv2XLSuL4GurgTokJ7gCA&q=divide+html+file+into+multiple+pages&oq=divide+html+file+into+multip&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.33i22i29i30l6.7165.16578..18826...0.0..0.204.1581.14j4j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39j0i7i30j0i8i30j0i8i7i30j33i10j0i22i30.6Xi9QwOC0fs
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?ei=-hv2XLmGFoTurgTJ6I-QAw&q=divide+html+file+many+files&oq=divide+html+file+many+files&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30.7522.19177..19365...0.0..0.144.868.9j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39j33i22i29i30j33i160.8AqX_urQzVg
> > > 
> > > But i think this is what you get when you put datadriven people on the board to make a hypertext markup language, could you not at least **one single** context driven person used to deal with layouts?
> > 
> > The idiot who put frame as an outside structure of the html document, was there not a single person that reacted and said, that frames are probably subs organised and divided by structural elements like tables?
> > 
> > Now you have two ways of create tables you are fucking funny.
> > 
> > Then when people complain there is some nutjob, that comes up with a solution iframe but it is used for reach documents on cross domain servers. Well maybe it is good, but could you not solved the problem with divide a text into subblocks without assuming they rest on other servers and need a scope to reach functions having a different HTML document origin.
> > 
> > For fuck sake solve the problem with divide a text into simple sub text blocks first. Yeah it could be an iterative process subs in subs and all would have to access to the functions in the main HTML.
> 
> And by the way iframe seem clueless about the dimensions of its origin....
> 
> Yeah that is fucking hilarious, it seem like it is a new document altogether, not a part of a document what you want to do is to put it in a <td> </td> and have it inherit it's dimension. 
> 
> It is not even about inherit some property of the <td>, it is about reading in the parts/subs to recreate a full document from parts "and then interpretate it".

When i think of it one realise how simple and ridiculous the problem actually is the code making up <img src=""> would done the job perectly, but instead reading in a textblock.

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