Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation?

Date	2012-11-06 12:16 -0800
From	Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.javascript
Subject	Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation?
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On 11/6/2012 11:22 AM, Scott Sauyet wrote:
...
> I personally can't see it.  My example was intentionally verbose and
> as explicit as I could comfortably be, so as to remove the regex
> terseness factor from the equation and see if Tim still had
> objections.  The objections many have to Perl are similar to one main
> objection to regexes: they are often simply unreadable: write-only
> code.  Your abbreviations are shortened enough to no longer be clear.
> None of the keywords except "OR" are really obvious.  It really
> doesn't look much clearer to me than `/^\s+|\s+$/g `.
...

I think there is a significant difference between Perl and regex. In
Perl, terseness is a choice. One can use meaningful identifiers, white
space, and comments. I have written maintainable Perl code.

In regex, there is no option for meaningful identifiers, or, as Gene
pointed out, white space. Comments have to be either before or after the
entire regex, not interleaved with it.

I would be much happier if one could build regular expressions up in
pieces, using identifiers to reference components:

leadingSpaces = /^\s+/
trailingSpaces = /\s+$/
leadingOrTrailingSpaces = /{leadingSpaces} | {trailingSpaces}/

s = s.replace(/{leadingOrTrailingSpaces}/g, "");

Patricia

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Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2012-11-01 18:32 -0700
  Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 06:14 +0000
    Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-02 02:28 -0700
  Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2012-11-02 10:22 +0100
    Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-02 10:37 +0100
    Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-02 06:25 -0700
      Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Asen Bozhilov <asen.bozhilov@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 06:35 -0700
      Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-11-02 14:58 +0100
        Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-02 08:49 -0700
          Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-11-04 21:52 +0100
            Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-04 22:49 +0000
              Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-11-05 13:18 +0100
              Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-11-06 06:48 -0800
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-06 15:04 +0000
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-11-06 10:43 -0800
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-11-06 11:22 -0800
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-06 12:16 -0800
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-11-06 12:53 -0800
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-11-07 17:34 +0100
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-07 23:21 +0100
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2012-11-07 23:23 +0100
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-11-07 17:00 -0800
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2012-11-08 07:16 +0100
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Dr J R Stockton <reply1245@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-11-07 17:50 +0000
            Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Dr J R Stockton <reply1245@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-11-05 19:26 +0000
              Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-11-07 22:13 +0100
        Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-11-02 09:51 -0700
      Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-02 18:41 +0100
        Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-02 12:30 -0700
          Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-02 20:33 +0000
            Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-11-04 21:57 +0100
              Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-04 22:44 +0000
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-05 15:41 +1100
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-05 09:07 +0000
          Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-02 22:10 +0100
            Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-02 15:22 -0700
              Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-03 10:19 +0100
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-11-03 13:05 -0700
                Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-03 21:39 +0100
        Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-03 12:26 +0100
  Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-11-02 12:28 +0200
    Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-11-02 10:00 -0700
  Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Asen Bozhilov <asen.bozhilov@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 06:15 -0700
  Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-11-06 06:32 -0800
    Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2012-11-06 18:23 -0800
      Re: Good use of bitwise NOT "~" or unnecessary obfuscation? Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-11-07 11:22 -0800

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