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Re: Reverse elements in array, they can be integers or strings.

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jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote on 17 mei 2015 in comp.lang.javascript:

>> In this HTML form input they are just characters in a string. 
> 
> Things are what they are regardless use.
> lesson one...

So?

>> They could be processed by Javascript as being base-10, 
>> but they could be processed as base-37 just as easily.
> 
> A digit is a digit regardless use.
> lesson two...

Indeed, and a value is a value and has no digits.

 
>> > I stated that my script will use
>> > very big bases doing arithmetic on very big numbers. 
>> 
>> So you will have to understand the principles of number processing
>> and if you wan to discuss it in this discussion list, you will have to
>> use 
>> the regular mathematical and programmatic terminology/
> 
> I am not suee i want to discuss the principles of doing arithmetic, thay
> are of my own, i can discuss my programming errors and techicalities and
> bugs with you without specify the arithmetic. 
> 
> Because that will be apparent once it is implemented.

I am sorry you are not [suee?] sure I suppose.

But you cannot discuss anything without a minimal use of regular 
terminology.
   
>> > Where the operands may have million of digits, 
>> 
>> If the operands are numerical values, they don't have digits.
> 
> You are a fool 

Did you run out of reasonalbe arguments?
Please be polite. 

> *any number* regardless base is represented by digits.

No, not at all. 

Some numeric values can be represented[!] in a string in any number of ways,
and if using the positional system, yes then the base-value has meaning,
but there are many common other ways, like words, ancient Hebrew or Latin 
numbers.

However a numeric value is just a value and "has" NO digits.
 
>> > and the base itself be a 1000 digit number.
>> 
>> No, the base is a integer value, and values don't have digits.
> 
> You see my arithmetic do not care if i work with strings or integers,

Whether you do not care does not mean certain are what they are not.

> because it is highlevel arithmetic, there will be binary operations.

That is no reason, binary computation of lowlevel arithmetic makes just as 
much sense.

> But the arithmetic take place on a metalevel. 

What the hell is a "metlevel"?

> You are ridiculuous there could be no values, 

I never said that there wre no values, or that there could be none.

Only your repeated impoliteness hints at an absense of your values.

> and certainly not arithmetic without digits. 

You are struggeling with my words and adding silly things.

I just said that values have no digits.

> We can do base one arithmetic with sets, 

What the hell are you talking about, what do you mean by "sets"

> but the elements still do need a symbolical qualifier 
> so we know they are elements. 

Ah, the pluralis majestatis!
You must be struggeling.

What elements are you talking about?

What is a "symbolical qualifier" [you must mean "symbolic"] ?

Why is it so important for you to know an element is an element?

Methinks that is obvious.

>> > Janevert 
>> 
>> Extremely impolite to mishandle my name, when prewarned.
>> 
>> >  had a little hard to understand
>> 
>> "had to"? Are you saying what I have to do?
> 
> Yes you have.

I have not. 

How impolite to tell me I have to do anythiing witout proper argumentation.

> 
>> > what a 1 digit base is (1-9)
>> 
>> Nonsensical language, a base has no digits, it is a value.
>> 
>> If you want to think in string-representations of values in other bases
>> than 10, you will have to forgo your preocupation with the decimal base.
>> 
>> Even better, call it base-A, as all bases are base-10 in their own
>> base. 
> 
> Well you seem to have a problem to distinguish between a base and its
> representation. We could call a group of 5 elements A or Z or X the
> arithmetic do not care. 

No, YOU are mixing things up.

A base-value is a value and values have no digints. 

>> [Base-1 is realy undefind, since it is not a positional value string,
>> so has no base to speak of.]
> 
> If an array represent a set Y=[1,1,1,1,1] would equal 5... I think it is
> possible to learn 4 years old this level of set theory. 

The array memebers have lost their positionally dependent value,
they are just a number of straws, dots or one-characters.

So assigning them a base-value, 
that is only significant to define the positional value,  
can be deduced to be useless.
  
>> and a two digit base (11-99). A thousand digit base is quite bigger.  
>> "quite bigger"?????????????
> 
> Well if you want to be precise it is 2^1000-100 bigger, that is quite
> bigger. 

Quite does not go with a comparative in English.

However yours is no argument for your fals claim 
that base-values "have" digits.

>> Such "biggerness" of a value is just the value itself, not the amout of
>  
>> digits it would have if expressed in a string with positional values.  
> 
> No if you take the maxvalues for both the bases with 2 digits and bases
> with 1000 digits. 

Values have no digits, not even base-values.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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