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Re: Ajax Librairies ??

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Mel Smith wrote on 19 nov 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> Evertjan said:
> 
>> Make your own routines.
>> You will know exactly what happens.
>> You will be able to do your own debugging.
> 
> Evertjan:
> 
>     That *does* have some appeal !
> 
>     I'll delay my decision until I really come close to using Ajax
>     again for my upcoming app.

I guess most programmers, using myself as an N=1 statistic [an inferior 
habit but often a necessarily one in decision taking path of single 
humans], don't need all the in's and out's possible with xmlhttp that are 
envisioned with full-blown Ajax-containing libraries, and just want 
["need"??] some form of one-way or two-way communication between the 
browser-page and the server, that would be just as possible with repeated 
form-submission and reloading of that page, but for speed and/or 
smoothness of the intended action. 

Clientside programmed intelligence as offered by clientside Javascript 
makes such on-page communication possible cross-browser-wise in 
interaction with whatever one fancies as a serverside programming 
language/engine.

In the contect of this NG, I would fancy serverside Javascript for the 
NG's sake also also because some functions can be written for both 
serverside and clientside in one go, for instance validation routines.

So why not build your own clean and lean code for the problem at hand?
And improve on your code only the next time you need the functionality?

There must be some joy of programming left even in the most desillusionned 
of programmers.

=======

In general, this not needing all the in's and out's possible, is a prime 
argument against general libraries in this multi-engine landscape of 
cross-browser [not forgetting aberrant IE and the miriad of mobile 
browsers] and each of these browser's cross-version "needs". 

The patchwork necessary to allow for this landscape, and updates needed to  
cover up the unforseable present needs and earlier sloppynesses, without 
disabling user-programmer code that even made use of such earlier errors, 
makes it advisably so important to steer free from al this general-library 
nonsense. 

The good usability of lean libraries in a single compiler environment, 
where only the executable is distributed to the users, is quite another 
matter, however residual sloppyness would be a danger here too.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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Ajax Librairies ?? "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2012-11-18 11:58 -0700
  Re: Ajax Librairies ?? Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2012-11-18 21:12 +0100
    Re: Ajax Librairies ?? "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2012-11-18 17:27 -0700
  Re: Ajax Librairies ?? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2012-11-18 21:35 +0100
    Re: Ajax Librairies ?? "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2012-11-18 17:29 -0700
      Re: Ajax Librairies ?? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2012-11-19 07:59 +0100
        Re: Ajax Librairies ?? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-19 09:22 +0000
          Re: Ajax Librairies ?? "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2012-11-19 09:08 -0700
  Re: Ajax Librairies ?? Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-11-19 00:12 +0100

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